Comments on: Top Towers / Königsberger Vannucchi http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/ Architecture News: The latest buildings, projects and competitions every day. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:39:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Carolina Urrego http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-309512 Carolina Urrego Thu, 13 Jan 2011 04:15:56 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-309512 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Top Towers / Königsberger Vannucchi | ArchDaily http://t.co/Ajm9jgF via @archdaily</span></span> Top Towers / Königsberger Vannucchi | ArchDaily http://t.co/Ajm9jgF via @archdaily

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By: André http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-217212 André Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:20:06 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-217212 And let me correct myself. I don't really think it's ugly. Actually I look at the building itself in my way to college and I just can't tell what I think or even what I feel. All I know is that I can't pass by without stare for a while. And let me correct myself.

I don’t really think it’s ugly. Actually I look at the building itself in my way to college and I just can’t tell what I think or even what I feel. All I know is that I can’t pass by without stare for a while.

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By: André http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-217204 André Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:52:48 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-217204 Have you guys noticed that brazilians never ever lose a chance to say a lot of bad things about their own country? Yes, the building is ugly. Yes, it's a big waste of space in one of the sweetest spots in the city. Yes, it could be better looking. But it could also be worst, it could be just another glass box in the city. I think the guys who designed it are bold enough to rely in old techniques and materials and come up with something unusual. Have you guys noticed that brazilians never ever lose a chance to say a lot of bad things about their own country?

Yes, the building is ugly. Yes, it’s a big waste of space in one of the sweetest spots in the city. Yes, it could be better looking.

But it could also be worst, it could be just another glass box in the city.

I think the guys who designed it are bold enough to rely in old techniques and materials and come up with something unusual.

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By: CAPO http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-172058 CAPO Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:05:13 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-172058 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">これはブラジルの団地?すげー。  http://bit.ly/aTulZY</span></span> これはブラジルの団地?すげー。  http://bit.ly/aTulZY

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By: abe http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-172059 abe Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:54:22 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-172059 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">こういう団地はいいかも http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/?f=selected</span></span> こういう団地はいいかも
http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/?f=selected

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By: Blocked-buildings can be nice… « DailyDigital http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-109102 Blocked-buildings can be nice… « DailyDigital Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:00:26 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-109102 [...] Link [...] [...] Link [...]

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By: Adhitecture http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-104384 Adhitecture Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:18:01 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-104384 I'm agree with the most judgment that may concluded as ugly, but in order to make it look fresher some modification works still can be done to fix these dirty scene. Change the colors, put more cladding that can work with the building's skin and bring some plants on it may dressed up this things. This way is better than kept your eyes to see inconvenient scene like this. I’m agree with the most judgment that may concluded as ugly, but in order to make it look fresher some modification works still can be done to fix these dirty scene. Change the colors, put more cladding that can work with the building’s skin and bring some plants on it may dressed up this things. This way is better than kept your eyes to see inconvenient scene like this.

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By: lucas http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-101289 lucas Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:23:47 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-101289 I´m asking to myself: what happened to brazilian architecture, at all? Until the 60s and 70s, we were the references in the south america. and now... I´m asking to myself: what happened to brazilian architecture, at all? Until the 60s and 70s, we were the references in the south america. and now…

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By: Paulo http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-52761 Paulo Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:27:16 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-52761 football stadiums....politicians friends...!?!? this is so Brazilian. football stadiums….politicians friends…!?!? this is so Brazilian.

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By: Paulo http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-52760 Paulo Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:24:57 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-52760 Simplesmente uma bosta. Simplesmente uma bosta.

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By: jonathan http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-42749 jonathan Thu, 16 Jul 2009 04:26:23 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-42749 sometimes being optimistic and fighting the status quo will leave us architects broke. our money comes from the clients. true, that this building could do better. but at least it's making a sort of statement to be different. but that doesn't mean i like the design sometimes being optimistic and fighting the status quo will leave us architects broke. our money comes from the clients.

true, that this building could do better. but at least it’s making a sort of statement to be different.
but that doesn’t mean i like the design

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By: thiago http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-29486 thiago Thu, 07 May 2009 19:24:36 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-29486 i am brasilian too, and I must say that this building is one of the ugliest things i´ve ever seen! I agree and for sure, brazilian architecture is in its crap state, mostly because of the real estate market and poor architects that don´t want to (or can) fight it, but, anyway, this building is an example that how a huge architecture office can be old fashioned, not just in aesthetics (looks like 70s or 80s buildings here in brazil) and mostly, the thinking they applied. In chile, we can see a shift in arch thinking last years, introdution of new concepts and technologies, but here there are the same 70s mind built everywhere. Brazilian architecture needs - and deserves - new architecture, a "superbrazilian" architecture, just like the 90s were from the dutch. ps1.: In my opinion, the architects did not wanted to 'fight' the system ps2.: the most impressive 'concept' of this building is that some of the white boxes in the facade are just fake enclosures for the small and inneficient air conditioning machines.. what a shame i am brasilian too, and I must say that this building is one of the ugliest things i´ve ever seen!
I agree and for sure, brazilian architecture is in its crap state, mostly because of the real estate market and poor architects that don´t want to (or can) fight it, but, anyway, this building is an example that how a huge architecture office can be old fashioned, not just in aesthetics (looks like 70s or 80s buildings here in brazil) and mostly, the thinking they applied.

In chile, we can see a shift in arch thinking last years, introdution of new concepts and technologies, but here there are the same 70s mind built everywhere. Brazilian architecture needs – and deserves – new architecture, a “superbrazilian” architecture, just like the 90s were from the dutch.

ps1.: In my opinion, the architects did not wanted to ‘fight’ the system
ps2.: the most impressive ‘concept’ of this building is that some of the white boxes in the facade are just fake enclosures for the small and inneficient air conditioning machines.. what a shame

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By: pedro, from rio de janeiro http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-14991 pedro, from rio de janeiro Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:05:28 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-14991 i'm talking about glass façades!!! of course must take into consideration the building orientation and the necessary sun shading resources. but having proper openings bring light and ventilation to the apartments. i’m talking about glass façades!!!
of course must take into consideration the building orientation and the necessary sun shading resources.
but having proper openings bring light and ventilation to the apartments.

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By: (other) http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-14955 (other) Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:20:27 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-14955 hey pedro, Do you think that big glasses are a good solution for the Brazilian weather? hey pedro,

Do you think that big glasses are a good solution for the Brazilian weather?

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By: Mark Magazine #17 http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-11716 Mark Magazine #17 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:20:50 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-11716 [...] (Campus Restaurant and Event Space), Stefan Strauss, Marlies Rohmer, Konigsberger & Vanucchi (Top Towers), Sancho-Madridejos, S+A Arquitectos, Anna And Eugeni Bach, Asif Kahn, Mei Architecten, Substance, [...] [...] (Campus Restaurant and Event Space), Stefan Strauss, Marlies Rohmer, Konigsberger & Vanucchi (Top Towers), Sancho-Madridejos, S+A Arquitectos, Anna And Eugeni Bach, Asif Kahn, Mei Architecten, Substance, [...]

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By: pedro, from rio de janeiro http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-11665 pedro, from rio de janeiro Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:54:28 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-11665 brazilian architecture is in deep crisis, in rio it's even worst than são paulo. but the real state condition in brazil cannot be an excuse for the architecture we have been producing the last decades, except in the cases when the contractors change the architect's design without his agreement. that don't seems to be the case, as the architects decided to publish the project. i recognize the intention of the architects to propose something unusual for the brazilian real market, that surprisingly accepted the design. but the design itself don't presents anything new if we think in global terms, in the other hand, it looks like poor dutch architecture. it's heavy and bold in a saturated landscape. the colors are awful. the windows are small. so, what's the poit of proposing something if this is low quality architecture? just because it's different? just because it means a swift from french classical do pseudo dutch contemporary? ps: have someone noticed the football stadiums for the 2014 world cup? all projected by politicians friends, without any competition brazilian architecture is in deep crisis, in rio it’s even worst than são paulo.

but the real state condition in brazil cannot be an excuse for the architecture we have been producing the last decades, except in the cases when the contractors change the architect’s design without his agreement. that don’t seems to be the case, as the architects decided to publish the project.

i recognize the intention of the architects to propose something unusual for the brazilian real market, that surprisingly accepted the design. but the design itself don’t presents anything new if we think in global terms, in the other hand, it looks like poor dutch architecture. it’s heavy and bold in a saturated landscape. the colors are awful. the windows are small. so, what’s the poit of proposing something if this is low quality architecture? just because it’s different? just because it means a swift from french classical do pseudo dutch contemporary?

ps:
have someone noticed the football stadiums for the 2014 world cup? all projected by politicians friends, without any competition

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By: Phil Donato http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-11646 Phil Donato Sat, 27 Dec 2008 05:29:47 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-11646 As a Sao Paulo citizen , I must say , its a piece of crap !!! As a Sao Paulo citizen , I must say , its a piece of crap !!!

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By: european arch. student living in Sao Paulo http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-11406 european arch. student living in Sao Paulo Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:14:31 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-11406 @Brazilian architect Hi moste of what you say is absolutely true. but i still don`t get the point of this building. So you basicly say ... lets build a lot of trash buildings to show what the real estate market does to us? As if S.P. has not enough ugly buildings already. @Brazilian architect

Hi

moste of what you say is absolutely true.
but i still don`t get the point of this building.
So you basicly say … lets build a lot of trash buildings to show what the real estate market does to us?

As if S.P. has not enough ugly buildings already.

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By: ninja http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-9292 ninja Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:27:06 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-9292 Bravo! Bravo!

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By: Brazilian architect http://www.archdaily.com/8794/top-towers-konigsberger-vannucchi/#comment-9290 Brazilian architect Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:03:17 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=8794#comment-9290 I don't believe what's in question is ugliness or beauty of the design. If one is familiar with architectural production in Brazil, he will know that what is produced for the real estate market here is nothing more than crap. Most architects accept this fact and produce worthless commercial architecture. And by that I mean fake, bad-executed neo-classic trash produced for newly enriched, cultureless people that believe that living in a residential building that looks like a French chateau will make them look nobler. Some architects do indeed have the opportunity to produce good architecture, but they are usually the ones that have the luck of having a minimal rich and cultured clientele that asks for the pretty houses we see in magazines. Some others have contacts in the government and take the opportunity to design the few good schools, museums and the like. There is, however, some few architects that try to fight the status quo and produce good architecture for the unnerving real estate market. After all, what we see in the streets and public spaces is the architecture the real estate market builds, as the pretty houses are all isolated in rich and gilded neighborhoods. That's what give quality to the experience of strolling around the city and then be surprised by something like these Top Towers. One may find it ugly or beauty, but what it's certain is that there is something of new and unexpected in it. It's, of course, cheap architecture for commercial purposes, but it surely is also the result of confronting what the real estate market imposes to us in Brazil. In that way, I do believe these towers shed some light of hope to the future of Brazilian cities, if not particularly to the state-of-the-art architecture some privileged people from developed countries are used to see, work and live in. I don’t believe what’s in question is ugliness or beauty of the design. If one is familiar with architectural production in Brazil, he will know that what is produced for the real estate market here is nothing more than crap.

Most architects accept this fact and produce worthless commercial architecture. And by that I mean fake, bad-executed neo-classic trash produced for newly enriched, cultureless people that believe that living in a residential building that looks like a French chateau will make them look nobler.

Some architects do indeed have the opportunity to produce good architecture, but they are usually the ones that have the luck of having a minimal rich and cultured clientele that asks for the pretty houses we see in magazines. Some others have contacts in the government and take the opportunity to design the few good schools, museums and the like.

There is, however, some few architects that try to fight the status quo and produce good architecture for the unnerving real estate market. After all, what we see in the streets and public spaces is the architecture the real estate market builds, as the pretty houses are all isolated in rich and gilded neighborhoods. That’s what give quality to the experience of strolling around the city and then be surprised by something like these Top Towers.

One may find it ugly or beauty, but what it’s certain is that there is something of new and unexpected in it. It’s, of course, cheap architecture for commercial purposes, but it surely is also the result of confronting what the real estate market imposes to us in Brazil. In that way, I do believe these towers shed some light of hope to the future of Brazilian cities, if not particularly to the state-of-the-art architecture some privileged people from developed countries are used to see, work and live in.

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