Pie Plan

Dec 2009

By Sebastian J — Filed under: Misc , Abu Huynh

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Why hasn’t this been drawn before? Very shrewd Pie Plan diagram from designer Abi Huynh which is “divided by utilization”. Nice.

Seen at It’s Nice That.

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Jordana , Sebastian . "Pie Plan" 03 Dec 2009. ArchDaily. Accessed 09 Feb 2012. <http://www.archdaily.com/42784>

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panza says:

not very effective – you cant really use those sharp corners – in the end, a square of same surface is more effective

# December 3, 2009 at 11:33

Rachid S says:

totally right panza

# December 3, 2009 at 11:47

ai! says:

OMG!You got to be joking! High level comment.

# December 3, 2009 at 12:13

Tosh says:

You can actually use these corners – ur not right. U can make a perfect triangle storage in there..

# December 3, 2009 at 16:55

archilocus says:

oh yeah, let’s store dozens of pizza slices in your triangular storage !

Less literally, i’ve seen lot of “enfilade” plans where you can divide the space as you wish (or almost)

http://www.lehmannfidanza.ch/main.html
click on the wheel picture, and in the gallery hit next till the eighth picture… A real architectural plan organized as a ring, far better than this pie diagram while providing similar organization.

# December 4, 2009 at 03:20

Michael says:

I believe it’s diagrammatic, not literal.

# December 3, 2009 at 11:38

Axel says:

What is this?
History shows multiple actual design in a circular shape that are really good.
Bucky Fullers Dymaxion house, just to mention one.
And I’m sure there are many interesting ones done now.

What is this doing on this webpage?
The guy is a graphic designer.
Worst architectural design I have seen in years…

# December 3, 2009 at 11:53

pracus says:

I can’t believe you are serious, people above! Impossible! Please say that these are jokes.

# December 3, 2009 at 11:58

Martin says:

African Huts, Rondavel, all been done before. In fact this plan looks pretty crude compared with some huts i’ve seen….

# December 3, 2009 at 12:14

ballistamagazine says:

I think (or I hope) this “pie plan” is abstractly diagramming the ratio of programmed spaces in a typical residence. The confusion is a product of the vague descriptions and mixture of abstract and literal symbols. The communicability of abstract diagrams are GREATLY diminished when you include literal, recognizable objects such as beds, counters, etc. Communication is key, and this project is severely lacking in that department.

# December 3, 2009 at 12:15

mime says:

was this a joke from archdaily ? ran out of daily news? no news is better than this

# December 3, 2009 at 12:24

nonono says:

Coll idea. I’m totally exiting with this concept. It lead us to design automation. Agree with sharp corner issue, but it can be solved with putting inner circle for circulation.

# December 3, 2009 at 12:32

panza says:

yes, you can simply put a storage space in the center and the problem is solved.

and, also, I would switch the kitchen for bedroom :)

# December 3, 2009 at 12:53

vincent says:

retarded architecture…

# December 3, 2009 at 12:38

Dustin says:

As a pie it does not work at all… sharp corners make it totally unfunctional.
As a doughnut it does work, leave a circle in the middle where all the sharp corners and and instead make a small courtyard.
Better off doing a Donut Plan Mr. Huynh.
No, I have no idea why this is posted on archdaily, I think this is something every architecture student once skecthed up and realized it was completly ideotic.

# December 3, 2009 at 12:43

panza says:

true, at least in my case :)

# December 3, 2009 at 12:54

Jonjon says:

It hurts my eyes to look at it…

# December 3, 2009 at 12:51

HW says:

Its obviously a point made via a diagram. The actual furnishings are added for a sense of smart-alecky realism. Lighten up, people.

# December 3, 2009 at 13:12

Ricky Bobby says:

What is this?? A center for ANTS?

# December 3, 2009 at 13:23

INawe says:

… How do you expect the children to learn to read good? It’s got to be at least… 3 times as big. ;)

# December 3, 2009 at 13:38

gorgos says:

I dont get it.

# December 3, 2009 at 13:58

Dan says:

The pie graph shows the size of each room relative to the time spent in each room. Its meant as a kind of diagram or cartoon.

# December 3, 2009 at 16:31

gorgos says:

Thanks, but if thats the case, why put the bed in one space with the sofa? Thats worth a division I would think.

# December 4, 2009 at 01:19

Rory says:

Phillip Johnson’s painting gallery does the pie thing.

http://www.artnet.com/Images/magazine/reviews/mason/mason5-2-07-15.jpg

# December 3, 2009 at 15:06

Dustin says:

It’s always nice to go through the kitchen to get to the bathroom.

# December 3, 2009 at 15:27

gn says:

it’s cool! I bet nobody of us thought about it previously… of course, the architectural solution is reaaaally bad. but I think could be a start point for making a precise project.

# December 3, 2009 at 15:30

OV says:

I don’t think this image is meant to be interpreted as a functional architectural plan. If you divorce yourself from that notion, then you can begin to see it for what it is: a diagram of how space and time is utilized by the designer, represented in the form of a pie chart. To me, each “slice” of the pie can be thought of in terms of how much time the designer spends in each space. For example, the percentage of time spent in the bathroom is a lot less then the percentage of time spent in the living/bedroom. I think the execution of the diagram and graphic is pretty weak. Maybe the creator of this diagram can learn a little bit about rigorous concept execution from Michael Maltzan’s Pittman Dowell Residence. http://www.mmaltzan.com/

Looking at the graphic designer’s info on his website, it states ” Pie Plan, divided by amount of utilization.” http://www.abiabiabi.com/index.php?/project/pie-plan/

Btw, not sure why this “Pie Plan” is really worthy of an ArchDaily posting.

# December 3, 2009 at 15:39

Corner-s says:

This is not working at all in terms of space, function….and I can’t see any drawings or images show how it works. Nowadays people spend too much time on making nice building form, interesting plan and forget what is architecture! The origin of architecture. I prefer people spend more time on reading books like ‘the pattern language’ or ‘Experiencing Architecture’. THey tell you how to design good building and it is so easy to read. No difficult theory…

# December 3, 2009 at 17:46

hmmmmmm says:

Pointless! (apart from the un-useable ones in the centre before anyone comments!) On its own – could work for some yuppie rich kid with a ‘cool’ circular all in one pad! But multiplied and built together – alot of wasted space and surface area. Really, what does this achieve?

# December 3, 2009 at 18:36

MUCH.DUTCH says:

Brilliant!

Some are way overthinking this. Relax!

# December 3, 2009 at 18:45

Dustin says:

Brilliant? Are you kidding me… you must not be an architect.

# December 3, 2009 at 20:44

Wes says:

Dustin,
its a point made graphically, to show the spaces as slices of
a pie graph in proportion to the time they are used. The
fact that the resulting plan is unusable is meant to be
funny. Think of it as a kind of comic criticism.

# December 4, 2009 at 12:05

Sam says:

where is the cheese?

# December 3, 2009 at 19:19

Zzy says:

This idea is good,but it is the initial one.
The simil idea has been awarded the first prize in 2006 WA-vanke comeetition for experimental.
http://www.uc800.com/rad/4/images/works/金东禹.jpg

# December 3, 2009 at 20:41

oren says:

for this project to properly work, it should come along with a whole set of specifically industrial designed products that can fit well into rounded and cornered spaces. could be interesting but in the end of the day, what benefits can it really bring us?

# December 3, 2009 at 22:31

juno says:

relax people. it’s cool way of showing how much we use our home program. instead of a dum pie with a room name and its percentage on it, this person drew a elementary level of room layout. can’t you see? this person is not trained as an architect at all.

# December 4, 2009 at 00:30

archiyed says:

this is not an architectural project!
its just a “pie plan DIAGRAM”. shows the usage of the spaces in a pie diagram.

# December 4, 2009 at 01:01

hmmmmmm says:

since when did the living and sleeping space become one? Unless the usage of the spaces relates to a studio apartment then the ‘diagram’ is pointless as well

# December 4, 2009 at 06:11

achilocus says:

well lemme think… since studio apartments exist?
If you have tons of space, why not, in a typology for single people or couples… (doesn’t mean neither I agree with that scheme)

# December 4, 2009 at 07:11

Vitsee says:

CAUTION – THIS IS A DIAGRAM – NOT A PLAN!!

-DO NOT SCALE/BUILD FROM THIS DRAWING-

# December 4, 2009 at 03:53

2MACoff says:

ДААА НУ И ЛАЖА !!! ЧЕ ЗА ПТУШНИК ПРОЕКТИРОВАЛ….

# December 4, 2009 at 04:19

Eicho says:

CAUTION – THIS IS A PLAN – NOT A DIAGRAM!! :)

# December 4, 2009 at 05:28

Moraes says:

here we call it Pizza Graphic! very nice one

# December 4, 2009 at 07:03

guy says:

These comments are hilarious. Thanks for the laugh guys. Should I consider the rest of the comments on archdaily on par with these? : D ha!

As for the diagram, I don’t think it is very accurate. As pointed out, the bed in the same space as the living room doesn’t represent most spaces and if it is more of a studio space being represented then when is the last time you saw a kitchen in a separate room in a studio. Also what is meant by utilization? Unless your cloths and other closet items are on the floor of your living room then they are usually in constant utilization. You may use the bathroom the least to wash up etc, and the kitchen to cook, and the bed to sleep, but you are always using the closet for it’s function of storage. Maybe Abi is not talking about utilization but about the amount of time spent occupying those spaces. No?

Its a fun idea and project to consider though.

# December 4, 2009 at 08:53

missND says:

ok here’s the problem.

first of all; i can understand criticizing a project. BUT i cant understand and i wont even try to understand one architect judge another architect using really cheap words and sentences. anyways…

the pie plan could be a great idea if the designer could see it ‘as round as it can be’ in his mind. because i guess he tried to see it as a round shape. it seems so.

well, he is using a round shape, but still using the same bed with the same size in a cad programme. it is manifactured for ’4-wall box living spaces’. am i wrong? and there are triangles in his pie…so it is basicly the matter of being ‘together’ and ‘whole’.

i dont get how designer sees it as a pie.
how does he see a ‘pie’ in his mind?
why it is round shaped then? what are these triangles and usual objects doing in there?

i dont get the designer. so i am confused.

# December 4, 2009 at 11:05

Ralph Kent says:

I agree, there is a big mismatch in graphic style. We all understand that it is a representational diagram of space use, but as a graphic, its at best ugly and confused. as you say, probably largely due to the absence of craft with which is has been constructed, probably in about 5 minutes flat – a 2mm circle divided then standard furniture component littering the place, a bit of trimming and its done. with a little more refinement, thought and care, this could have been a far more powerful diagram.

# December 5, 2009 at 04:38

archiyed says:

this is not an architectural project!
its just a “pie plan DIAGRAM”. shows the usage of the spaces in a pie diagram. there is no problem with bed or etc. Designer want to explain usage of the living spaces in our life with a pie diagram but with a trick he did this like an architectural plan or drawing. a good idea. may be someone criticize percentages of the spaces but its not too much problem i think.

# December 5, 2009 at 09:27

archiyed says:

Why hasn’t this been drawn before? Very shrewd Pie Plan diagram from designer Abi Huynh which is “divided by utilization”. Nice.

May be yo may look the meaning of “shrewd”

# December 5, 2009 at 09:30

cad says:

Mmmm…..pie

# December 4, 2009 at 14:59

loosman says:

i like pizza and i like pie – what’s more, the designer has actually got an idea, which is more than can be said for most of the ‘rational’ rectangular buildings applauded on this site…..

# December 6, 2009 at 17:20

achilocus says:

Can all those guys defending this thing saying it’s just a diagram representing percentages of our daily use of rooms explain me when they spend 5% of their time (app. 72 mnutes a day) in their closet? Be serious!
By the way I agree with Ralph Kent, playing the architect is nice but please, then spend a bit more than 5 minutes on the diagram…

# December 7, 2009 at 07:35

Gatz says:

Is this a joke?

# December 7, 2009 at 13:32

ashok says:

shrewd?? this is crude…

# December 7, 2009 at 22:44

Ro says:

Wow.. I know people on archdaily love to criticise and take an ego trip but these comments take the biscuit! It’s blatantly NOT an architectural plan. It’s a diagram of how space / life use is divided up, with architectural plan elements on it to indicate what the piechart represents! I enjoyed both the effective diagram, and of course the hilarious comments. TBH it has confirmed some of my suspicions..

# December 23, 2011 at 15:24

missND says:

well, then i guess if it is ‘just a diagram’ (i dont know what you mean by that though) why didnt he just wrote ‘kitchen’, ‘living room’ etc. on the plan.
another thing; who spends most of the time in the living room or bedroom, in which country, which gender are you talking about, etc again.

there’s just a basic thing about representations: your work talks, not you.
i am sorry, this pie chart is not talking that effectively. it is a good idea, but a bad representation, that’s all.

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