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		<title>By: christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-81563</link>
		<dc:creator>christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that wall in the link is hilarious and sad at the same time.  imagine if your business model was based on the health of that wall?  not so good.  

that being said, i have seen vegetated walls that are not the Quai Branly variety (with the entire wall planted with little pots, no soil and constant watering) but of the creeping vine variety that work quite well to cool and shade the building.  

having grown plants in the city on my fire escape, i can say that the plants themselves are subject to quite a bit of dirt and pollution.  not to mention that most of those vegetable plants (tomatos, peppers) are annuals, meaning they don&#039;t survive the winter (not sure where this project is located...great reporting)

Jakob Rope and Ronstan make cable-systems made especially for growing vines up walls and have some good examples on their websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that wall in the link is hilarious and sad at the same time.  imagine if your business model was based on the health of that wall?  not so good.  </p>
<p>that being said, i have seen vegetated walls that are not the Quai Branly variety (with the entire wall planted with little pots, no soil and constant watering) but of the creeping vine variety that work quite well to cool and shade the building.  </p>
<p>having grown plants in the city on my fire escape, i can say that the plants themselves are subject to quite a bit of dirt and pollution.  not to mention that most of those vegetable plants (tomatos, peppers) are annuals, meaning they don&#8217;t survive the winter (not sure where this project is located&#8230;great reporting)</p>
<p>Jakob Rope and Ronstan make cable-systems made especially for growing vines up walls and have some good examples on their websites.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How deep would the planting medium have to be or how much fertilizer would the plants need in order to produce fruit? Has anyone ever produced food from a green wall? I could see an herb like thyme working, but nothing that would produce fruit. I feel skeptical they&#039;re seriously proposing building this. They&#039;re probably planning to just install an espaliered fruit tree or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How deep would the planting medium have to be or how much fertilizer would the plants need in order to produce fruit? Has anyone ever produced food from a green wall? I could see an herb like thyme working, but nothing that would produce fruit. I feel skeptical they&#8217;re seriously proposing building this. They&#8217;re probably planning to just install an espaliered fruit tree or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Ani</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-88754</link>
		<dc:creator>Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Love this! RT @reclaimedwood: RT @archdaily: Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects http://bit.ly/3utqe8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Love this! RT @reclaimedwood: RT @archdaily: Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects <a href="http://bit.ly/3utqe8" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3utqe8</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Guerin</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167549</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Guerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT@susancohanWould be even more cool if they could do &#039;pick your own salad&#039; http://bit.ly/2gkkN &lt;--How fun is that living mural&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT@susancohanWould be even more cool if they could do &#8216;pick your own salad&#8217; <a href="http://bit.ly/2gkkN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2gkkN</a> &lt;&#8211;How fun is that living mural</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167550</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Architects Plan &quot;Edible Restaurant&quot; on site of Cathedral:  http://bit.ly/2gkkN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Architects Plan &quot;Edible Restaurant&quot; on site of Cathedral:  <a href="http://bit.ly/2gkkN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2gkkN</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: i-COOK Professional</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167551</link>
		<dc:creator>i-COOK Professional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Architects Plan &quot;Edible Restaurant&quot; on site of Cathedral:  http://bit.ly/2gkkN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Architects Plan &quot;Edible Restaurant&quot; on site of Cathedral:  <a href="http://bit.ly/2gkkN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2gkkN</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Amber Chandler</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167552</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Edible restaurant: http://bit.ly/uYsKY&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Edible restaurant: <a href="http://bit.ly/uYsKY" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/uYsKY</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Brad Woolf</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167553</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Woolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/1IbB7H would walk by and pick free food from the walls of this proposed restaurant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://bit.ly/1IbB7H" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1IbB7H</a> would walk by and pick free food from the walls of this proposed restaurant.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: W3Bconsultor</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167554</link>
		<dc:creator>W3Bconsultor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Edible Restaurant http://bit.ly/bNHjN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Edible Restaurant <a href="http://bit.ly/bNHjN" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bNHjN</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lone</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55888</link>
		<dc:creator>Lone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Peter that this would be a difficult project to sustain, as is, for the many stated reasons. Replace the market garden with something simpler, like a herb installation. It would accomplish the same general &#039;fresh, interactive food&#039; selling point, be nearly as lush (as well as fragrant) once established, and less of a burden. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Peter that this would be a difficult project to sustain, as is, for the many stated reasons. Replace the market garden with something simpler, like a herb installation. It would accomplish the same general &#8216;fresh, interactive food&#8217; selling point, be nearly as lush (as well as fragrant) once established, and less of a burden. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: bidtool</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-167555</link>
		<dc:creator>bidtool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Reading: &quot;Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects &#124; ArchDaily&quot; (http://twitthis.com/fl49gc)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Reading: &#8220;Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects | ArchDaily&#8221; (<a href="http://twitthis.com/fl49gc" rel="nofollow">http://twitthis.com/fl49gc</a>)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a very misguided design. The plan is clear and interesting, but the use of planted walls is one that I would like to see bought to an abrupt end. 

Unless you have the unlimited resources of the Musée du Quai Branly in paris (by Jean Nouvel) who famously started this fad some years ago, then these planted walls are completely unsustainable. They are fragile, environmentally intense (the require constant water irrigation!!, just visit the Musée du Quai Branly and you will see what I mean)  and can look pretty awful. To burden a client with such a heavy maintenance solution, particularly in a city which is arid,  if wholly irresponsible of the architect, they look like they are peddling fashion over clear thinking and environmentally responsive design.

If you want to see what I mean, a great example here in rainy london exists... I guarantee you, Sanders building will reasonable it in record time!!   DSDHA&#039;s irresponsible use of an expensive and un-environmental solution for a client on a limited budget... well done! 

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/amazing-pictures-londons-first-living-wall-dies/5207086.article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a very misguided design. The plan is clear and interesting, but the use of planted walls is one that I would like to see bought to an abrupt end. </p>
<p>Unless you have the unlimited resources of the Musée du Quai Branly in paris (by Jean Nouvel) who famously started this fad some years ago, then these planted walls are completely unsustainable. They are fragile, environmentally intense (the require constant water irrigation!!, just visit the Musée du Quai Branly and you will see what I mean)  and can look pretty awful. To burden a client with such a heavy maintenance solution, particularly in a city which is arid,  if wholly irresponsible of the architect, they look like they are peddling fashion over clear thinking and environmentally responsive design.</p>
<p>If you want to see what I mean, a great example here in rainy london exists&#8230; I guarantee you, Sanders building will reasonable it in record time!!   DSDHA&#8217;s irresponsible use of an expensive and un-environmental solution for a client on a limited budget&#8230; well done! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/amazing-pictures-londons-first-living-wall-dies/5207086.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/daily-news/amazing-pictures-londons-first-living-wall-dies/5207086.article</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55648</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really wanna see it finished</description>
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		<title>By: deaw</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55605</link>
		<dc:creator>deaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this is good idea,man. it&#039;s nice and humble. the edible idea sounds fun  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this is good idea,man. it&#8217;s nice and humble. the edible idea sounds fun  :)</p>
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		<title>By: knuckles</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55570</link>
		<dc:creator>knuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can’t believe that people are quarreling about a render being down, is this what architectural criticism has come down to now? 
Did these people study architecture or graphic design? 

Troy is right it’s about the idea not about the bloody rendering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t believe that people are quarreling about a render being down, is this what architectural criticism has come down to now?<br />
Did these people study architecture or graphic design? </p>
<p>Troy is right it’s about the idea not about the bloody rendering?</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Lemieur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Lemieur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does &quot;dude that renders are down!&quot; even mean? It&#039;s not even proper English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does &#8220;dude that renders are down!&#8221; even mean? It&#8217;s not even proper English.</p>
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		<title>By: Niko</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55517</link>
		<dc:creator>Niko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude this is NOT RENDER,it is a collage for your information</description>
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		<title>By: Troy Lemieur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Lemieur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks really hard to maintain, but that doesn&#039;t make it a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks really hard to maintain, but that doesn&#8217;t make it a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariano</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/34219/edible-restaurant-sander-architects/#comment-55429</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude that renders are down!</description>
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		<title>By: leporello</title>
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		<dc:creator>leporello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;街中の植え込みがレストランなんていいアイディアだ！＞ Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects http://bit.ly/3utqe8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">街中の植え込みがレストランなんていいアイディアだ！＞ Edible Restaurant / Sander Architects <a href="http://bit.ly/3utqe8" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3utqe8</a></span></span></span></p>
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