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	<title>Comments on: Pier 57 / LOT-EK + Young Woo &amp; Associates</title>
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		<title>By: VELO CITIZEN</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-1749162</link>
		<dc:creator>VELO CITIZEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Pier 57 / LOT-EK + Young Woo &amp; Associates &#124; ArchDaily http://t.co/6S4kXzxl via @archdaily&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Pier 57 / LOT-EK + Young Woo &amp; Associates | ArchDaily <a href="http://t.co/6S4kXzxl" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/6S4kXzxl</a> via @archdaily</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: normansyah</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-256724</link>
		<dc:creator>normansyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Reading: &quot;http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/&quot;( http://twitthis.com/usmllv )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Reading: &quot;<a href="http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/&quot;" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/&quot;</a>( <a href="http://twitthis.com/usmllv" rel="nofollow">http://twitthis.com/usmllv</a> )</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: normansyah</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-256725</link>
		<dc:creator>normansyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;ada studio namany LOT-EK, bikin yg namanya PE-CEL ahh..haha--&gt; 
http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">ada studio namany LOT-EK, bikin yg namanya PE-CEL ahh..haha&#8211;&gt;<br />
<a href="http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: 000</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-143942</link>
		<dc:creator>000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>哈得逊河公园信托最近宣布了为纽约市的57号码头获奖设计。码头位于切尔西在第15街和西西街西部肉类包装区的边缘，是哈德森河公园的发展的一部分。该码头的基本结构将被保留，拥有层层的集装箱保持一个工作室，零售和社会空间的混合。很多小的空间将被出租给当地工匠来作为他们收入的一种方式，给予了码头街头信誉和社会关系。该提案的重点放在建立一个专门为当地的艺术家和融合创新的混合使用为该场地提供了非常有吸引力的解决方案。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>哈得逊河公园信托最近宣布了为纽约市的57号码头获奖设计。码头位于切尔西在第15街和西西街西部肉类包装区的边缘，是哈德森河公园的发展的一部分。该码头的基本结构将被保留，拥有层层的集装箱保持一个工作室，零售和社会空间的混合。很多小的空间将被出租给当地工匠来作为他们收入的一种方式，给予了码头街头信誉和社会关系。该提案的重点放在建立一个专门为当地的艺术家和融合创新的混合使用为该场地提供了非常有吸引力的解决方案。</p>
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		<title>By: NeilS</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-115096</link>
		<dc:creator>NeilS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must concur, I am a student of Architecture in final year. Renders do pose massive problems when it comes to initial reviews. It is so easy to render a scheme now early on and it does look finalised, fait accompli. This attracts strong comments and is rarely seen as the diagram that it is. It can also be viewed by some clients in real world that all the hard work is done and its not worth paying the money to the architects for any more work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must concur, I am a student of Architecture in final year. Renders do pose massive problems when it comes to initial reviews. It is so easy to render a scheme now early on and it does look finalised, fait accompli. This attracts strong comments and is rarely seen as the diagram that it is. It can also be viewed by some clients in real world that all the hard work is done and its not worth paying the money to the architects for any more work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dunraven&#8217;s Sports Hall / Scabal &#124; ArchDaily</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-51155</link>
		<dc:creator>Dunraven&#8217;s Sports Hall / Scabal &#124; ArchDaily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 02:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] such as the first in Seattle by HyBrid Architecture + Assembly, plus the artist residences for Pier 57 in New York, all featured previously on AD.  Now, the use of containers has spread to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] such as the first in Seattle by HyBrid Architecture + Assembly, plus the artist residences for Pier 57 in New York, all featured previously on AD.  Now, the use of containers has spread to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Manuel</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88140</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@YahyaHenry LOT-EK landed the pier57 job it uses SC http://bit.ly/Mlpt0
  #sustainable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@YahyaHenry LOT-EK landed the pier57 job it uses SC <a href="http://bit.ly/Mlpt0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Mlpt0</a><br />
  #sustainable</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Ulrich</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88185</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 05:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @PPS_Placemaking The winning design for NYC&#039;s Pier 57 Redevelopment is based around recycled shipping containers:  http://bit.ly/12Yivm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @PPS_Placemaking The winning design for NYC&#8217;s Pier 57 Redevelopment is based around recycled shipping containers:  <a href="http://bit.ly/12Yivm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/12Yivm</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Project for Public Spaces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Places in the News: August 10, 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-47595</link>
		<dc:creator>Project for Public Spaces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Places in the News: August 10, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A recently approved Hudson River Park development will use shipping containers for materials and will focus on renting retail space to local artists [ArchDaily] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Iain Myrans</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88199</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Myrans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Another great public space in New York. Hudson River Park Trust Announces Winner of Pier 57 design comp.: http://tinyurl.com/pier57nyc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Another great public space in New York. Hudson River Park Trust Announces Winner of Pier 57 design comp.: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/pier57nyc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/pier57nyc</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Karen Baker Mathu</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88217</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Baker Mathu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@PPS_Placemaking I think  http://bit.ly/12Yivm looks really great - do you know the timeline? have they started ULURP? funding?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@PPS_Placemaking I think  <a href="http://bit.ly/12Yivm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/12Yivm</a> looks really great &#8211; do you know the timeline? have they started ULURP? funding?</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Hussain</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88245</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The winning design for New York City’s Pier 57 http://bit.ly/Mlpt0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The winning design for New York City’s Pier 57 <a href="http://bit.ly/Mlpt0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Mlpt0</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Maurry</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-88268</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@crutcherk RT PPS The winning design for Pier 57 in NYC. The local artist component sounds like fun. What do you think? http://bit.ly/12Yivm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@crutcherk RT PPS The winning design for Pier 57 in NYC. The local artist component sounds like fun. What do you think? <a href="http://bit.ly/12Yivm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/12Yivm</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ScottinNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-47380</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottinNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind this is a competition entry.  The renderings are paid for by the architect, not by, well, the prize money, if there is any.  

The design AND the rendering fit the site and this kind of an urban design project--a derelict pier building on a beautiful waterfront park that has been in developed over the last 20 years.  Also in keeping with other recent public development, namely the High Line.  Appropriate to have the people be photos, and the trees, the city around it as that is what is important in such a project.  Better to have the rendering of the building elements recede.  And the color is appropriate for an old pier structure.

My experience as an architect for over 20 years, and a principal for the last 16, is that &quot;realistic&quot; expensive renderings (airbrush or CADD) don&#039;t sell the project to the client anyway.  The more you try to be realistic, the more it looks fake.  A certain looseness, especially early on, allows for the client to focus not on your computer skills, but on the ideas behind the design.  And it doesn&#039;t look carved in stone, important especially here in NYC where public participation (for good or worse) is part of the very long process of building such a project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind this is a competition entry.  The renderings are paid for by the architect, not by, well, the prize money, if there is any.  </p>
<p>The design AND the rendering fit the site and this kind of an urban design project&#8211;a derelict pier building on a beautiful waterfront park that has been in developed over the last 20 years.  Also in keeping with other recent public development, namely the High Line.  Appropriate to have the people be photos, and the trees, the city around it as that is what is important in such a project.  Better to have the rendering of the building elements recede.  And the color is appropriate for an old pier structure.</p>
<p>My experience as an architect for over 20 years, and a principal for the last 16, is that &#8220;realistic&#8221; expensive renderings (airbrush or CADD) don&#8217;t sell the project to the client anyway.  The more you try to be realistic, the more it looks fake.  A certain looseness, especially early on, allows for the client to focus not on your computer skills, but on the ideas behind the design.  And it doesn&#8217;t look carved in stone, important especially here in NYC where public participation (for good or worse) is part of the very long process of building such a project.</p>
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		<title>By: PPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The winning design for Pier 57 in NYC. The local artist component sounds like fun. What do you think? http://bit.ly/12Yivm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The winning design for Pier 57 in NYC. The local artist component sounds like fun. What do you think? <a href="http://bit.ly/12Yivm" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/12Yivm</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment coorresponds to what I expressed some time ago
at this link:

http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38513

and

http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38641

What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment coorresponds to what I expressed some time ago<br />
at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38513" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38513</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38641" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaily.com/25554/loft-house-ryan-stephenson-joey-fante-kait-caldwell-aimee-ocarroll/#comment-38641</a></p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: HowardG</title>
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		<dc:creator>HowardG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Encore...</description>
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		<title>By: Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;What we should do with B&#039;mouth Pier - http://bit.ly/Mlpt0&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">What we should do with B&#8217;mouth Pier &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/Mlpt0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Mlpt0</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Dariusz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dariusz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the images are quite telling.. I have to agree with Patrick Bateman as well.. Are the renders supposed to be telling of the architecture, or should architecture trump everything.. We are creating SPACES, not images. I think the realistic render revolution will take a big step back in favour of real projects.
If the shipping containers were all sorts of different colours, it would make the project quite nice. Love the roof and various levels.. Good job NOT spending thousands on real-life renderings.. Keep it real!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the images are quite telling.. I have to agree with Patrick Bateman as well.. Are the renders supposed to be telling of the architecture, or should architecture trump everything.. We are creating SPACES, not images. I think the realistic render revolution will take a big step back in favour of real projects.<br />
If the shipping containers were all sorts of different colours, it would make the project quite nice. Love the roof and various levels.. Good job NOT spending thousands on real-life renderings.. Keep it real!</p>
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		<title>By: Juni</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/31479/pier-57-lot-ek-young-woo-associates/#comment-47153</link>
		<dc:creator>Juni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bad architecture
bad renders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bad architecture<br />
bad renders</p>
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