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	<title>Comments on: ORDOS 100 #43: Tatiana Bilbao</title>
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		<title>By: Satoshi SAKAMAKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satoshi SAKAMAKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&quot;ORDOS 100 #43: Tatiana Bilbao &quot;( http://twitthis.com/8wvn4e )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">&quot;ORDOS 100 #43: Tatiana Bilbao &quot;( <a href="http://twitthis.com/8wvn4e" rel="nofollow">http://twitthis.com/8wvn4e</a> )</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mujava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mujava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A monopoly hotel meets Tetris?? 
No really, I love this design! It&#039;s simple on the outside yet the internal space is really interesting to look at. A simple play on negative and positive forms.
Maybe it is a bit of an arty comment on the archetypical &#039;house&#039;... but is that so bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A monopoly hotel meets Tetris??<br />
No really, I love this design! It&#8217;s simple on the outside yet the internal space is really interesting to look at. A simple play on negative and positive forms.<br />
Maybe it is a bit of an arty comment on the archetypical &#8216;house&#8217;&#8230; but is that so bad?</p>
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		<title>By: seyns</title>
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		<dc:creator>seyns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, i love the way it looks like a rural building :D
a very nice model, wonder what was used as material...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, i love the way it looks like a rural building :D<br />
a very nice model, wonder what was used as material&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: horse</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/30314/ordos-100-43-tatiana-bilbao/#comment-98219</link>
		<dc:creator>horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudin House by Herzog &amp; de Meuron + jorge yazpik subtractions = Tatiana Bilbao´s House</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudin House by Herzog &amp; de Meuron + jorge yazpik subtractions = Tatiana Bilbao´s House</p>
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		<title>By: ygogolak</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/30314/ordos-100-43-tatiana-bilbao/#comment-77154</link>
		<dc:creator>ygogolak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is a physical model, bud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is a physical model, bud.</p>
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		<title>By: tatiano</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/30314/ordos-100-43-tatiana-bilbao/#comment-68057</link>
		<dc:creator>tatiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prentencioso y feo como la arquitecta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prentencioso y feo como la arquitecta</p>
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		<title>By: Oflodor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oflodor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Como quién, Rojkind? ji ji ji!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Como quién, Rojkind? ji ji ji!</p>
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		<title>By: darthelkens</title>
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		<dc:creator>darthelkens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can render the pic more like the model scene than it,honestly speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can render the pic more like the model scene than it,honestly speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: fredy massad</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredy massad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 09:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very thoughtful insight.
couldn&#039;t just agree more with you.
we need more bitter people in this cupcake-shop that a part of the architecture world is becoming under the hands of naive-cool people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very thoughtful insight.<br />
couldn&#8217;t just agree more with you.<br />
we need more bitter people in this cupcake-shop that a part of the architecture world is becoming under the hands of naive-cool people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting.
The subtractions are done very wisely, it becomes a normal house-typology at first sight but with a lot more spatial quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting.<br />
The subtractions are done very wisely, it becomes a normal house-typology at first sight but with a lot more spatial quality.</p>
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		<title>By: makia</title>
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		<dc:creator>makia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Que haga lo que quiera en desiertos pero que no la dejen otra vez en una Expo por favor!!! derroche de dinero y mala imagen para arquitectos mexicanos que si son de calidad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Que haga lo que quiera en desiertos pero que no la dejen otra vez en una Expo por favor!!! derroche de dinero y mala imagen para arquitectos mexicanos que si son de calidad.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuf-Pak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuf-Pak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, to add on to my lengthy comment above...I really like this particular project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, to add on to my lengthy comment above&#8230;I really like this particular project.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuf-Pak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuf-Pak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought.  I&#039;m not personally sure if it will or if it will not.   I actually have a serious wonder if it will exist at all, given the present economic crisis.

An interesting thought is that these exercises, meaning the Ordos projects, are the kind of things that one would expect to happen on paper...explorations of ideas and form absent of place.  The fact that all of these exist in a space makes them a little sadder.  

I have to say, the result of seeing all of these formally vanguard projects in one place at one time seems to have really fostered a discussion about the potential vapidity of projects that are simply formal.   And the fact that these are all being erected on the tundra, having them in direct comparison shows us how little (or much) we know about designing for condition and place.

As an architect working in China, I was livid when we weren&#039;t invited...however, I realize that this is the worst type of commission for an architect.   A program without limits, client, budget, or real site constraint.  We all need constraint and pressure to do good work in this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought.  I&#8217;m not personally sure if it will or if it will not.   I actually have a serious wonder if it will exist at all, given the present economic crisis.</p>
<p>An interesting thought is that these exercises, meaning the Ordos projects, are the kind of things that one would expect to happen on paper&#8230;explorations of ideas and form absent of place.  The fact that all of these exist in a space makes them a little sadder.  </p>
<p>I have to say, the result of seeing all of these formally vanguard projects in one place at one time seems to have really fostered a discussion about the potential vapidity of projects that are simply formal.   And the fact that these are all being erected on the tundra, having them in direct comparison shows us how little (or much) we know about designing for condition and place.</p>
<p>As an architect working in China, I was livid when we weren&#8217;t invited&#8230;however, I realize that this is the worst type of commission for an architect.   A program without limits, client, budget, or real site constraint.  We all need constraint and pressure to do good work in this world.</p>
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		<title>By: sp</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/30314/ordos-100-43-tatiana-bilbao/#comment-45418</link>
		<dc:creator>sp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you seen what&#039;s being built in Ordos (aside from this project)... it&#039;s basically iterations of western typologies of housing. The same developer IS building suburbia in the mongolian desert. I realize that&#039;s not the &quot;regional&quot; architecture, or what one would even imagine is being built there. But really, within the context of the project, it&#039;s almost a critique on it. I recall pictures of these developments on the wall of Tatiana&#039;s studio. So it&#039;s not as out of place as it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you seen what&#8217;s being built in Ordos (aside from this project)&#8230; it&#8217;s basically iterations of western typologies of housing. The same developer IS building suburbia in the mongolian desert. I realize that&#8217;s not the &#8220;regional&#8221; architecture, or what one would even imagine is being built there. But really, within the context of the project, it&#8217;s almost a critique on it. I recall pictures of these developments on the wall of Tatiana&#8217;s studio. So it&#8217;s not as out of place as it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: DMas</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In some years this whole Ordos project will be studied as one of the clearest mistakes and misuses of a profession blinded by its hedonistic and self concious behavior.
It’s a pity that this rubbish have the opportunity to get built... it is not addressing anything in the world. A world so saturated with questions to be answered.
This projects are so empty... answering questions nobody asked, and on top of that offering nothing that can be used for something useful.
It&#039;s really a pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some years this whole Ordos project will be studied as one of the clearest mistakes and misuses of a profession blinded by its hedonistic and self concious behavior.<br />
It’s a pity that this rubbish have the opportunity to get built&#8230; it is not addressing anything in the world. A world so saturated with questions to be answered.<br />
This projects are so empty&#8230; answering questions nobody asked, and on top of that offering nothing that can be used for something useful.<br />
It&#8217;s really a pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Tashio</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/30314/ordos-100-43-tatiana-bilbao/#comment-45410</link>
		<dc:creator>Tashio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting concept however I feel they failed on many levels. This project tries to play with interaction between the exterior and interior but does not in anyway seem to let the site of the building dictate these moves (cuts).

 &quot;The design creates spaces transforming the inside outside relationship and developing a form which questions the extroverted and introverted nature of a house&quot;

A simple solution would be to let the cuts work with natural daylighting in some fashion to have a play between shadow and the white surface (of the whole building!). OR maybe if there was some form of materiality (since this white material is not specified) these interior exterior moves could be taken further and have some materials flow from interior to exterior and change as they meet a glazing surface. 

Also did anyone else note that the shadows on the roof plan are wrong...? Look at the north arrow, the shadow, and then the site plan and you will see what I mean. Also take into consideration that this is a rather high latitude.

Lastly, I feel there is really no sense of scale from the exterior. I think someone has mentioned this already. 

Architecture is not just about cutting holes in buildings and making incredible renderings. Its about user interaction with a building thats one with site, function, and aesthetics. Because of this I feel this building fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting concept however I feel they failed on many levels. This project tries to play with interaction between the exterior and interior but does not in anyway seem to let the site of the building dictate these moves (cuts).</p>
<p> &#8220;The design creates spaces transforming the inside outside relationship and developing a form which questions the extroverted and introverted nature of a house&#8221;</p>
<p>A simple solution would be to let the cuts work with natural daylighting in some fashion to have a play between shadow and the white surface (of the whole building!). OR maybe if there was some form of materiality (since this white material is not specified) these interior exterior moves could be taken further and have some materials flow from interior to exterior and change as they meet a glazing surface. </p>
<p>Also did anyone else note that the shadows on the roof plan are wrong&#8230;? Look at the north arrow, the shadow, and then the site plan and you will see what I mean. Also take into consideration that this is a rather high latitude.</p>
<p>Lastly, I feel there is really no sense of scale from the exterior. I think someone has mentioned this already. </p>
<p>Architecture is not just about cutting holes in buildings and making incredible renderings. Its about user interaction with a building thats one with site, function, and aesthetics. Because of this I feel this building fails.</p>
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		<title>By: amberx</title>
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		<dc:creator>amberx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>在这里请说话，不要侮辱汉字。</description>
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		<title>By: casa</title>
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		<dc:creator>casa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice concept...:D:D ilkie it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice concept&#8230;:D:D ilkie it</p>
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		<title>By: fengfeng</title>
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		<dc:creator>fengfeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>放屁</description>
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		<title>By: cocteau</title>
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		<dc:creator>cocteau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i,ll like to see little samy´s work as well, i´m never seen bitter folks exposing their work, and since i like this project i can problably learn from something better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i,ll like to see little samy´s work as well, i´m never seen bitter folks exposing their work, and since i like this project i can problably learn from something better.</p>
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