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		<title>By: Dillanger</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-1295581</link>
		<dc:creator>Dillanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 21:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were a Tenegae Mutant Ninja Turtle, now I\&#039;d say Kowabunga, dude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were a Tenegae Mutant Ninja Turtle, now I\&#8217;d say Kowabunga, dude!</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-84013</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of a competition and the ensuing dialog over this subject makes it relevant and important, however it seems a greater effort should be extended to others outside the architecture/design world for inclusion.  I examined this issue since 2007 from an artist, part architect, part ecologist, part cultural dynamicist perspective looking at both resistance and adaptive models that includes areas in SF like Ocean Beach which would be inundated as well - see http://www.johnroloff.com/prometheus_page1.html which shows a preliminary study of the resistance model and a brief abstract of the complete idea which sees this inquiry as only the beginning of examining the issues at stake.  A full presentation of this idea was done in a public lecture for the Graduate Fine Arts Program at CCA, San Francisco, CA on April 7, 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of a competition and the ensuing dialog over this subject makes it relevant and important, however it seems a greater effort should be extended to others outside the architecture/design world for inclusion.  I examined this issue since 2007 from an artist, part architect, part ecologist, part cultural dynamicist perspective looking at both resistance and adaptive models that includes areas in SF like Ocean Beach which would be inundated as well &#8211; see <a href="http://www.johnroloff.com/prometheus_page1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnroloff.com/prometheus_page1.html</a> which shows a preliminary study of the resistance model and a brief abstract of the complete idea which sees this inquiry as only the beginning of examining the issues at stake.  A full presentation of this idea was done in a public lecture for the Graduate Fine Arts Program at CCA, San Francisco, CA on April 7, 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43159</link>
		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, only one of the competition entries suggested that the displaced people move away from the bay area...all the winning entries involved massive public works projects and non-existent technology...really not sure what the ultimate point of this meeting of the minds is...Oh, wait...it&#039;s like most arch competitions - an inbred circle-jerk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, only one of the competition entries suggested that the displaced people move away from the bay area&#8230;all the winning entries involved massive public works projects and non-existent technology&#8230;really not sure what the ultimate point of this meeting of the minds is&#8230;Oh, wait&#8230;it&#8217;s like most arch competitions &#8211; an inbred circle-jerk!</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43157</link>
		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOM&#039;s concept is pure bullshit...an un-maintainable, unrealistic expansion of their &quot;put a curtainwall on it&quot; mentality...Amongst all the entries (which I viewed today at the ferry building) theirs&#039; was pretty looking, but had nothing conceptually on many others...how do ships pass through...what about fish and whales, etc...the whole thing seems like a bandaid and a last minute reaction.....All of the entries that supposed the SF, CA or Federal gov would intervene with a mega project are stupid...the best entries were on the small scale, oportunistic side...things that reflect the greedy money grubin hedonistic san francisco lifestyle work the best...the people in this town move too fast - they wont wait around for the gov to build a dam for them....blah blah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOM&#8217;s concept is pure bullshit&#8230;an un-maintainable, unrealistic expansion of their &#8220;put a curtainwall on it&#8221; mentality&#8230;Amongst all the entries (which I viewed today at the ferry building) theirs&#8217; was pretty looking, but had nothing conceptually on many others&#8230;how do ships pass through&#8230;what about fish and whales, etc&#8230;the whole thing seems like a bandaid and a last minute reaction&#8230;..All of the entries that supposed the SF, CA or Federal gov would intervene with a mega project are stupid&#8230;the best entries were on the small scale, oportunistic side&#8230;things that reflect the greedy money grubin hedonistic san francisco lifestyle work the best&#8230;the people in this town move too fast &#8211; they wont wait around for the gov to build a dam for them&#8230;.blah blah</p>
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		<title>By: jacopast</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-87901</link>
		<dc:creator>jacopast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Rising Tides Competition results &#124; ArchDaily http://ff.im/-5nwIl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Rising Tides Competition results | ArchDaily <a href="http://ff.im/-5nwIl" rel="nofollow">http://ff.im/-5nwIl</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: greg ohtake</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43131</link>
		<dc:creator>greg ohtake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1/5/09 BCDC: &quot;The Commission voted to authorize the executive director to enter into a $25,000 (contract) with Meckel Design Consulting to manage an international design competition...&quot; An additional $25,000 from federal tax money went to the awards.

Meckel, CCA Director of Planning and, conflictingly, competition organizer, coordinated the jury, and miraculously half of the &quot;winners,&quot; were 3 backwater CCA instructors, while the competition boasted 18 nations.

The usual are present, like CCA trustee Byron Kuth and instructor T. Faulders. K/R suggests an inane levee for the dynamic, deep waters of the bay which would destroy the existing coastline. Faulders&#039; lasers draw an ugly path around the bay to show the path of future neanderthal earthen dikes.

At least do some homework pseudo-professors, there already exist sophisticated dike systems in other countries that aren&#039;t like the superficial walls you&#039;ve marketed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1/5/09 BCDC: &#8220;The Commission voted to authorize the executive director to enter into a $25,000 (contract) with Meckel Design Consulting to manage an international design competition&#8230;&#8221; An additional $25,000 from federal tax money went to the awards.</p>
<p>Meckel, CCA Director of Planning and, conflictingly, competition organizer, coordinated the jury, and miraculously half of the &#8220;winners,&#8221; were 3 backwater CCA instructors, while the competition boasted 18 nations.</p>
<p>The usual are present, like CCA trustee Byron Kuth and instructor T. Faulders. K/R suggests an inane levee for the dynamic, deep waters of the bay which would destroy the existing coastline. Faulders&#8217; lasers draw an ugly path around the bay to show the path of future neanderthal earthen dikes.</p>
<p>At least do some homework pseudo-professors, there already exist sophisticated dike systems in other countries that aren&#8217;t like the superficial walls you&#8217;ve marketed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cason White</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-87914</link>
		<dc:creator>Cason White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;I love dense, informational posters. These from the Rising Tides competition are pretty sweet.  http://bit.ly/3TWMsZ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">I love dense, informational posters. These from the Rising Tides competition are pretty sweet.  <a href="http://bit.ly/3TWMsZ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/3TWMsZ</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Easy Website</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-87924</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;website design news&gt; Rising Tides Competition results &#124; ArchDaily http://bit.ly/OXcR2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">website design news&gt; Rising Tides Competition results | ArchDaily <a href="http://bit.ly/OXcR2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/OXcR2</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Max Young</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-87942</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Rising Tides Competition results &#124; ArchDaily http://bit.ly/T50j6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Rising Tides Competition results | ArchDaily <a href="http://bit.ly/T50j6" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/T50j6</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: tropicalismo360</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43112</link>
		<dc:creator>tropicalismo360</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I first saw this competition I immediately thought of Vincent Callebaut&#039;s &#039;Lilypad&#039; http://bit.ly/167dXT (although I should really say BIG&#039;s concept http://bit.ly/5iDkp ripped off and then beautifully rendered by Pixelab) ... sorry I got side-tracked
Nevertheless there are many interesting ideas among the winners (and honourable mentions). None of them quite took the leap of saying that we float away on the water (like lilypad) - and maintain life in the bay area. The question for me is how much of a sea level rise does it take for none of these solutions to work. Sea levels have risen by over 120m ! (400ft) since the &#039;ice age&#039; 20,000 years ago. That sort of change would certainly count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I first saw this competition I immediately thought of Vincent Callebaut&#8217;s &#8216;Lilypad&#8217; <a href="http://bit.ly/167dXT" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/167dXT</a> (although I should really say BIG&#8217;s concept <a href="http://bit.ly/5iDkp" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5iDkp</a> ripped off and then beautifully rendered by Pixelab) &#8230; sorry I got side-tracked<br />
Nevertheless there are many interesting ideas among the winners (and honourable mentions). None of them quite took the leap of saying that we float away on the water (like lilypad) &#8211; and maintain life in the bay area. The question for me is how much of a sea level rise does it take for none of these solutions to work. Sea levels have risen by over 120m ! (400ft) since the &#8216;ice age&#8217; 20,000 years ago. That sort of change would certainly count.</p>
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		<title>By: StructureHub Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43107</link>
		<dc:creator>StructureHub Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I noted yesterday ( http://structurehub.com/blog/2009/07/rising-tides-competition-winners-announced-promptly-forgotten/ ), the laser-indicated barriers concept seems better for marketing then for addressing the underlying disruptions from higher waters.  SOM&#039;s flexible membrane that minimizes extreme water-level changes is the most genius...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I noted yesterday ( <a href="http://structurehub.com/blog/2009/07/rising-tides-competition-winners-announced-promptly-forgotten/" rel="nofollow">http://structurehub.com/blog/2009/07/rising-tides-competition-winners-announced-promptly-forgotten/</a> ), the laser-indicated barriers concept seems better for marketing then for addressing the underlying disruptions from higher waters.  SOM&#8217;s flexible membrane that minimizes extreme water-level changes is the most genius&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: holz</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-43101</link>
		<dc:creator>holz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i prefer the &quot;failure&quot; motives.

however, i will say this: spell check everything. for the love of god. spell check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i prefer the &#8220;failure&#8221; motives.</p>
<p>however, i will say this: spell check everything. for the love of god. spell check.</p>
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		<title>By: Architecture Feeds</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/29258/rising-tides-competition-results/#comment-87953</link>
		<dc:creator>Architecture Feeds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Rising Tides Competition results: BAY Arc by SOM - Winning entry When driving between SFO Airpo.. http://bit.ly/fOB3
 (Via @archdaily)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Rising Tides Competition results: BAY Arc by SOM &#8211; Winning entry When driving between SFO Airpo.. <a href="http://bit.ly/fOB3" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/fOB3</a><br />
 (Via @archdaily)</span></span></span></p>
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