Comments on: In Progress: Doha Office Tower, Qatar / Ateliers Jean Nouvel

By: chacal

chacal — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:08:32 +0000

I love it! everyone is discussing whether or not this tower looks like a condom or a penis… and just a few hundred kilometres from Dubai there are ethnic massacres, millions living in ridiculous conditions… sure my comment might be out of topic but after all isn’t the main purpose of architecture to shelter humans?

By: Ala

Ala — Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:02:15 +0000

Thanks for the links. I always love to study new buildings, their styles and applications even if I couldn’t create one. The drawings are really helpful. Thank you again.

Best wishes,

Ala

By: my mother, AKA, do you believe what he says

my mother, AKA, do you believe what he says — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:35:26 +0000

good morning,
you are so right, they are not the same, they just look akin.
(not gerkins though, nouvels are far more elegant, if i may say)
the basic point of my words was, that i think that arguing with the fact that they have different carpets doesn’t keep them from being very, very similar. if you need to go all the way to the structure to explain the difference of skyline shaping office buildings, well …
that is my humble point of view.
go down and take a look at things from the point of view of the mortals once in a while.
nevertheless, as it seems, the second tower was an order to be alike, so shame on the client then.
the first towers architecture was not very interesting to me, so the one of this one obviously cannot either. Even though the cladding is quiet exiting.
Here are some plans and sections

http://desmena.com/?p=628

architect, sometimes I whish I was not; but there I am probably not the only one;)
it was nice chatting,
see you around,
best regards

By: public eye

public eye — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:06:08 +0000

@my mother, AKA, do you believe what he says;

my mother, this is funny. I was just trying explain a dumb kid to make him understand why these towers are not the same except for an overall shape, which is a bullet or whatever. Do you really know how the structures of these buildings work, how the interior spaces function? I do about Agbar tower and Gherkins, although all I know about Doha office tower is what I see from these pictures.

If you really study about Agbar tower and Gherkins, you will understand how they are completely different. Not just about different engineers and different architects Like you commented.

I am really disappointed by your childish writing and your apparent agitated feelings.

Reply me if you have studied these two towers I have made comments because my initial argument or comment about these towers is that they are not the same. I even had an impression that you might not be an architect when I first read your previous comment(July 16, 2009). I don’t know if you are. But I am.

Sincerely,

Ala

By: do you believe what he

do you believe what he — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:52:42 +0000

dear ala,
sorry for ruffeling your feathers.
read (carefully), analize, try to understand a comment and its content. then eventually reply.
“designed” and “adjustements” is what some people call collaboration. some day you will understand that and the impact this collaboration has on each participating party and when this collaboration beginns.
and if you read again (carefully) you will see, that i did not directly accuse the engeniers to be the breeders of this; but i still am very convinced of their strong inpact from the very beginning.
so wipe your tears, relax your cheekbones and try to get back this smile of yours!
it is not worth getting all exited to the point of stuttering about what is just a comment about not very interesting architecture that is not even worth the time all people here spent commenting on.
have a pleasent day,
my mother

By: Ala

Ala — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:07:47 +0000

@my mother,

Architects designed the structural systems for these towers, and consulted with engineers for structural capability.
Engineers did not design these structures but made architect’s design of structure possible. Just like Beijing Bird best and Water Cube structure design. Architects designed the structural system, and engineers made necessary adjustment (such as simplifying the complexity or modularizing the structure) to make those stand.

By: Ala

Ala — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:07:07 +0000

@my mother,

By: whatever she

whatever she — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:39:23 +0000

I t’aime very much MR/MRS/MISS ofv!
very funny!
please comment more often here on this site.
as you can see there are only serious people out there!
je m’incline devant vous maitre!

By: ofv

ofv — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:28:53 +0000

Mais c’est qui ce Jean Nouvel ?

By: my mother

my mother — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:45:05 +0000

oh, yes you are right … it’s not the same engineers working on the project!
stay as sharp and you will save more than just my life!
thank you!