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		<title>By: bazla</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-132558</link>
		<dc:creator>bazla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all!
this is a logically thought out building.
it seems to be an architectural and engineering wonder of the present time.
Some work should be done on the form even now as this building appears to be an alien&#039;s building it should be appear to a building of EARTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all!<br />
this is a logically thought out building.<br />
it seems to be an architectural and engineering wonder of the present time.<br />
Some work should be done on the form even now as this building appears to be an alien&#8217;s building it should be appear to a building of EARTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Vroegindeweij</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-50486</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Vroegindeweij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unparalleled ugliness.</description>
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		<title>By: Terry Glenn Phipps</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38777</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Glenn Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh &amp; Kevin

It was my privilege to have an explanation of the form of 30 St Mary Axe from Robin Partington, who credits the form mostly to the planning process.  The structure was engineered to maximize column free interior spaces.  Natural ventilation (a feature that Swiss Re, tenants in the building since its sale, unfortunately don&#039;t use) came about as the result of rotating the floor plates and creating offsets in the vertical atria that are diffused throughout the structure.  

The &quot;gherkin&quot; is an entirely logical building in the tradition of the greatest of its predecessors.

As for the proposed Rotterdam tower, I would have to say this is one of the more useless exercises I have ever seen.  After trying very hard to find something to like, all I can manage to come up with is that it recalls both a petroleum refinery and the gantry structure of the Saturn V. A light show could be achieved without the Rube Goldberg elevator arrangement which can be called silly out of charity.  

The best thing about this building is the infinitesimal probability that it will ever be built.

Terry Glenn Phipps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh &amp; Kevin</p>
<p>It was my privilege to have an explanation of the form of 30 St Mary Axe from Robin Partington, who credits the form mostly to the planning process.  The structure was engineered to maximize column free interior spaces.  Natural ventilation (a feature that Swiss Re, tenants in the building since its sale, unfortunately don&#8217;t use) came about as the result of rotating the floor plates and creating offsets in the vertical atria that are diffused throughout the structure.  </p>
<p>The &#8220;gherkin&#8221; is an entirely logical building in the tradition of the greatest of its predecessors.</p>
<p>As for the proposed Rotterdam tower, I would have to say this is one of the more useless exercises I have ever seen.  After trying very hard to find something to like, all I can manage to come up with is that it recalls both a petroleum refinery and the gantry structure of the Saturn V. A light show could be achieved without the Rube Goldberg elevator arrangement which can be called silly out of charity.  </p>
<p>The best thing about this building is the infinitesimal probability that it will ever be built.</p>
<p>Terry Glenn Phipps</p>
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		<title>By: Sofie</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38700</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in Rotterdam several times, and I don&#039;t think such a high building is appropriate there. &#039;Wanting to stand out&#039; is not a good reason to build this -or anything (although it can be a plus in some situations). Adding the complex elevatorsystem without enough reasons doesn&#039;t make it any better.
This tower just doesn&#039;t feel right. Designing something suitable is already difficult enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in Rotterdam several times, and I don&#8217;t think such a high building is appropriate there. &#8216;Wanting to stand out&#8217; is not a good reason to build this -or anything (although it can be a plus in some situations). Adding the complex elevatorsystem without enough reasons doesn&#8217;t make it any better.<br />
This tower just doesn&#8217;t feel right. Designing something suitable is already difficult enough!</p>
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		<title>By: The Developer</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38565</link>
		<dc:creator>The Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAHAHAHAHA ! I laugh in the face of your naivety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA ! I laugh in the face of your naivety.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan L</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38526</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that they want to create a skin with these elevators, but they are unuseful in the sense that there is too much of them, this would only create chaos and waste of energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that they want to create a skin with these elevators, but they are unuseful in the sense that there is too much of them, this would only create chaos and waste of energy.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos pozo</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-171827</link>
		<dc:creator>carlos pozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Monolab High Rise Tower in Rotterdam: http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Monolab High Rise Tower in Rotterdam: <a href="http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/" rel="nofollow">http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Frederick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frederick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“primitive and of mediocre quality” ... and utterly pointless!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“primitive and of mediocre quality” &#8230; and utterly pointless!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mat archi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat archi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they smoked too much join&#039;s!!!!!

It&#039;s impossible to building an High rise building of 450m in rotterdam !!! the ground looks likes a fresh goat cheese 
I had participate in the high rise workshop at Delft University 
We had to design an High Rise of 250 meters and the engineers who made lectures (which was one of the burj Dubaï) said us it was impossible. the only city where you can build such Building in Randstad Holland is Utrech ....

they lose their time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they smoked too much join&#8217;s!!!!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to building an High rise building of 450m in rotterdam !!! the ground looks likes a fresh goat cheese<br />
I had participate in the high rise workshop at Delft University<br />
We had to design an High Rise of 250 meters and the engineers who made lectures (which was one of the burj Dubaï) said us it was impossible. the only city where you can build such Building in Randstad Holland is Utrech &#8230;.</p>
<p>they lose their time</p>
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		<title>By: Eco Architecture: Dutch architecture firm designs sustainable high-rise for Rotterdam &#124; Green Cleaning Ideas</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38437</link>
		<dc:creator>Eco Architecture: Dutch architecture firm designs sustainable high-rise for Rotterdam &#124; Green Cleaning Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via: ArchDaily/DesignBoom [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Partick Bateman</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38424</link>
		<dc:creator>Partick Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when does it take off?</description>
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		<title>By: Koós Miklós</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-171828</link>
		<dc:creator>Koós Miklós</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;450 m-es toronyház terve a rotterdami kikötőbe http://bit.ly/mFffk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">450 m-es toronyház terve a rotterdami kikötőbe <a href="http://bit.ly/mFffk" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/mFffk</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Lana</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is very under developed, seems likes the first sketch model of an idea that can develope much much further... The pieces of the building do not seem to relate at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is very under developed, seems likes the first sketch model of an idea that can develope much much further&#8230; The pieces of the building do not seem to relate at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ornament and crime</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38357</link>
		<dc:creator>ornament and crime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPS - If you want to do tall buildings, move to south east Asia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS &#8211; If you want to do tall buildings, move to south east Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: ornament and crime</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38356</link>
		<dc:creator>ornament and crime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to Monolab : insulting every building in the city you propose a big fuck off tower is probably not the best approach to getting your ideas fulfilled.

PS - a developer would laugh in the face of your naivety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to Monolab : insulting every building in the city you propose a big fuck off tower is probably not the best approach to getting your ideas fulfilled.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; a developer would laugh in the face of your naivety.</p>
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		<title>By: Lasse</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38319</link>
		<dc:creator>Lasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the pragmatics either, &quot;shaped to reduce wind and shadow&quot; ? I don&#039;t buy that... And uninterrupted floorplans?? All floorplans must be different anyway so why is this a goal? I would say it is a setback to deny the users good straight forward connection between floors where it makes programmatic sense. 

The elevators would be fun to ride, to move around in this complex mechanism if it would work. And it seems from the renders that they try to tell us it will. I don&#039;t buy that either...

It seems the went all in on the machine aesthetics and in the process of doing so failed to see just how much further they could go with the same meens if they did it proporly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the pragmatics either, &#8220;shaped to reduce wind and shadow&#8221; ? I don&#8217;t buy that&#8230; And uninterrupted floorplans?? All floorplans must be different anyway so why is this a goal? I would say it is a setback to deny the users good straight forward connection between floors where it makes programmatic sense. </p>
<p>The elevators would be fun to ride, to move around in this complex mechanism if it would work. And it seems from the renders that they try to tell us it will. I don&#8217;t buy that either&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems the went all in on the machine aesthetics and in the process of doing so failed to see just how much further they could go with the same meens if they did it proporly.</p>
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		<title>By: Henrique</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38257</link>
		<dc:creator>Henrique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, the elevators system can produce interesting and even revolutionary ultimate outcomes. But I still miss some more explanations about it. How it work on intersections for instance. Anyway, it could spare us some precious space waste on vertical circulations and inumerous wells (not sure if it is called that in English, sorry). It unpleases me however, besides its aesthetics, not to see the plans or living spaces as flexible. It seens to me, on the overall a reunion of different projects.
That&#039;s all for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the elevators system can produce interesting and even revolutionary ultimate outcomes. But I still miss some more explanations about it. How it work on intersections for instance. Anyway, it could spare us some precious space waste on vertical circulations and inumerous wells (not sure if it is called that in English, sorry). It unpleases me however, besides its aesthetics, not to see the plans or living spaces as flexible. It seens to me, on the overall a reunion of different projects.<br />
That&#8217;s all for now.</p>
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		<title>By: 16:08:78</title>
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		<dc:creator>16:08:78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the &quot;Intestinal Architecture&quot; we’re into, this sort of design might happen. 
Monolab fail in achieving what he states he achieve.

These are my Reasons:
1.	“Pragmatic sense” is absent. Movement should be contained inside the intestinal shape tubes. Indeed, the shape of intestines are for this purpose, so that things can move trough it up and down, this movement is also found in other tubular shapes things out there on nature.
2.	For this matter, the argument above makes the intestinal shape senseless itself, as it is in need of a supporting structure for it to do the real job.
3.	Given the fact that the structure is senseless itself, it exposes the truth about the firm’s intention to be ambitious about an impractical design.


* All are welcome to debate this view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the &#8220;Intestinal Architecture&#8221; we’re into, this sort of design might happen.<br />
Monolab fail in achieving what he states he achieve.</p>
<p>These are my Reasons:<br />
1.	“Pragmatic sense” is absent. Movement should be contained inside the intestinal shape tubes. Indeed, the shape of intestines are for this purpose, so that things can move trough it up and down, this movement is also found in other tubular shapes things out there on nature.<br />
2.	For this matter, the argument above makes the intestinal shape senseless itself, as it is in need of a supporting structure for it to do the real job.<br />
3.	Given the fact that the structure is senseless itself, it exposes the truth about the firm’s intention to be ambitious about an impractical design.</p>
<p>* All are welcome to debate this view.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/25317/monolabs-high-rise-tower/#comment-38249</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kevin

Swiss Re aka 30 St Mary Ax [since Swiss Re sold the building] is derived from structural ideas to limit interior columns, the natural ventilation could occur nearly as well in a box, if proportioned properly.  Which tower are you on?  The Huron?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kevin</p>
<p>Swiss Re aka 30 St Mary Ax [since Swiss Re sold the building] is derived from structural ideas to limit interior columns, the natural ventilation could occur nearly as well in a box, if proportioned properly.  Which tower are you on?  The Huron?</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have worked on a high rise project for over a year that is currently under construction in the city of London. 
However, this already had a massive amount of complexities even though the shape of the highrise has been regular. 
I think a more complex shape in a highrise really needs a solid reason. The Swiss Re tower in London by Foster for example is derived by ventilation improvements. 
The idea to extract ventilation to the outside is good but why this random organic bubble shapes as tower. Especially Rotterdam is already a park of curiosities. Maybe get a review 
from some local architects ( u know who ! );) !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have worked on a high rise project for over a year that is currently under construction in the city of London.<br />
However, this already had a massive amount of complexities even though the shape of the highrise has been regular.<br />
I think a more complex shape in a highrise really needs a solid reason. The Swiss Re tower in London by Foster for example is derived by ventilation improvements.<br />
The idea to extract ventilation to the outside is good but why this random organic bubble shapes as tower. Especially Rotterdam is already a park of curiosities. Maybe get a review<br />
from some local architects ( u know who ! );) !!</p>
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