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		<title>By: YILUN ZHANG</title>
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		<dc:creator>YILUN ZHANG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Reading: &quot;Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group  &#124; ArchDaily&quot;( http://twitthis.com/p2pf6t )&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: VisualBloc.com # On with the show! &#187; Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>VisualBloc.com # On with the show! &#187; Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 10:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yoonhee</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoonhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group - http://shar.es/brwn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group &#8211; <a href="http://shar.es/brwn" rel="nofollow">http://shar.es/brwn</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: zga</title>
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		<dc:creator>zga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is this facade considered fancy? it&#039;s only angled differently than most - different than what most are used to. It probably relates to the sun more efficiently this way, but in the end, it seems just as arbitrary as a rectilinear facade. What is it about angles that disgust traditionalists so much? It does feel less rigid, more exciting, of the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is this facade considered fancy? it&#8217;s only angled differently than most &#8211; different than what most are used to. It probably relates to the sun more efficiently this way, but in the end, it seems just as arbitrary as a rectilinear facade. What is it about angles that disgust traditionalists so much? It does feel less rigid, more exciting, of the times.</p>
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		<title>By: borja</title>
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		<dc:creator>borja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these russians are pretty amusing
hi guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these russians are pretty amusing<br />
hi guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Tarek sakkal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarek sakkal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok</description>
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		<title>By: Yazdani Studio </title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/23552/miyi-tower-and-master-plan-studio-shift-and-swa-group/#comment-165359</link>
		<dc:creator>Yazdani Studio </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @archdaily (these are our friends...check it out:) Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group http://bit.ly/ZEINJ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @archdaily (these are our friends&#8230;check it out:) Miyi Tower and Master plan / Studio SHIFT and SWA Group <a href="http://bit.ly/ZEINJ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ZEINJ</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: 2MACoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>2MACoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Я не говорю что мне не нравится В А Л А С Я Ч К А это первое что приходит на ум кода вижу этот объект...класная валасячка карочеее...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Я не говорю что мне не нравится В А Л А С Я Ч К А это первое что приходит на ум кода вижу этот объект&#8230;класная валасячка карочеее&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BROSALIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BROSALIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>мне нравится....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>мне нравится&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/23552/miyi-tower-and-master-plan-studio-shift-and-swa-group/#comment-35293</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion on the fundamentals of architecture: program, forma, material, use, artsmanship... None of these fundamentals are easy to read in a design like this. And, with the risk of being called &quot;traditionalist&quot;, i strongly belief that projects with a kind of design-language of &quot;freeformbulpyness-and-no-worries&quot; will be out of order sooner than we think. Sure, China and the new-world awaits... but what about the simplicity of a good &quot;house&quot;. A house, office or even church (program) is more than a shell, and needs the word &#039;dwelling&#039; to complete it. That&#039;s right, dwelling as fullfillment of architecture. Read Heidegger people, and projects like this are nothing more than a joke.
My goodness, think of the person making the drawings for this building; poor fellow-wannabe-architect trying to conceive the technical specifications; poor architecture, it made itself a joker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion on the fundamentals of architecture: program, forma, material, use, artsmanship&#8230; None of these fundamentals are easy to read in a design like this. And, with the risk of being called &#8220;traditionalist&#8221;, i strongly belief that projects with a kind of design-language of &#8220;freeformbulpyness-and-no-worries&#8221; will be out of order sooner than we think. Sure, China and the new-world awaits&#8230; but what about the simplicity of a good &#8220;house&#8221;. A house, office or even church (program) is more than a shell, and needs the word &#8216;dwelling&#8217; to complete it. That&#8217;s right, dwelling as fullfillment of architecture. Read Heidegger people, and projects like this are nothing more than a joke.<br />
My goodness, think of the person making the drawings for this building; poor fellow-wannabe-architect trying to conceive the technical specifications; poor architecture, it made itself a joker.</p>
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		<title>By: viniruski</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/23552/miyi-tower-and-master-plan-studio-shift-and-swa-group/#comment-35283</link>
		<dc:creator>viniruski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weak equation with no sum.  If you&#039;re going to build four bridges of circulation that meet in the middle of a river, the expectations are that something will happen at this meeting place. it looks like people will just make their way up to the top of the tower and jump off? 

Interesting form though.  Just needs more architectural development.  Try thinking like a monkey working in Eisenmann&#039;s office.  EE ee ah ah [scratch armpit].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weak equation with no sum.  If you&#8217;re going to build four bridges of circulation that meet in the middle of a river, the expectations are that something will happen at this meeting place. it looks like people will just make their way up to the top of the tower and jump off? </p>
<p>Interesting form though.  Just needs more architectural development.  Try thinking like a monkey working in Eisenmann&#8217;s office.  EE ee ah ah [scratch armpit].</p>
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		<title>By: borja</title>
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		<dc:creator>borja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally... i dislike what i see here
concerning to heritage, even though i&#039;m not at all an expert in chinese history, i live in shanghai since more than year and a half, and this project, or what i can see of it, doesn&#039;t recall any blink of chinese culture at all
my comment is quite straight since the beginning. like/dislike is an old topyc in arts. as i see it, this problem, in architecture at least, has a way to be treated, this is, aesthetics derive from ethics, and it&#039;s when a design, a shape, shows in its configuration a whole logic which lies behind, it&#039;s then when i personally (at least i&#039;d like to do it that way) when i presonally find it &quot;good looking&quot;, &quot;beautiful&quot; or &quot;nice&quot;, call it as you want.
besides, for sure, there are parameters in aesthetics, which don&#039;t always get linked to this, which work separately, which come from reasons which we don&#039;t control much, from personal inclinations. you might like this or that color, you might like this or that shape, you feel a light inclination to a certain composition... but, at the end, if a design is coherent, it gets your attention, and makes sense, and gives beauty
personally, i don&#039;t find anything very interesting in this case, just a fancy looking rendering work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally&#8230; i dislike what i see here<br />
concerning to heritage, even though i&#8217;m not at all an expert in chinese history, i live in shanghai since more than year and a half, and this project, or what i can see of it, doesn&#8217;t recall any blink of chinese culture at all<br />
my comment is quite straight since the beginning. like/dislike is an old topyc in arts. as i see it, this problem, in architecture at least, has a way to be treated, this is, aesthetics derive from ethics, and it&#8217;s when a design, a shape, shows in its configuration a whole logic which lies behind, it&#8217;s then when i personally (at least i&#8217;d like to do it that way) when i presonally find it &#8220;good looking&#8221;, &#8220;beautiful&#8221; or &#8220;nice&#8221;, call it as you want.<br />
besides, for sure, there are parameters in aesthetics, which don&#8217;t always get linked to this, which work separately, which come from reasons which we don&#8217;t control much, from personal inclinations. you might like this or that color, you might like this or that shape, you feel a light inclination to a certain composition&#8230; but, at the end, if a design is coherent, it gets your attention, and makes sense, and gives beauty<br />
personally, i don&#8217;t find anything very interesting in this case, just a fancy looking rendering work</p>
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		<title>By: le.salomon</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/23552/miyi-tower-and-master-plan-studio-shift-and-swa-group/#comment-35270</link>
		<dc:creator>le.salomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well,in an earthquake aera......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well,in an earthquake aera&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2MACoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>2MACoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>В А Л А С Я Ч К А ! ! !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>В А Л А С Я Ч К А ! ! !</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Lucky</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/23552/miyi-tower-and-master-plan-studio-shift-and-swa-group/#comment-35261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo Lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any connection of this building with Chinese heritage. Anybody? I&#039;d guess that Studio SHIFT and SWA Group did some research to support such the claim... why it is not included in the project description? At least a summary would be helpful. As for this form being art... well everything can be art... a pile of old stinky shoes too... it&#039;s just a question of who do you address your piece of art to... I wonder if this would be proposed to a, say, City of LA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any connection of this building with Chinese heritage. Anybody? I&#8217;d guess that Studio SHIFT and SWA Group did some research to support such the claim&#8230; why it is not included in the project description? At least a summary would be helpful. As for this form being art&#8230; well everything can be art&#8230; a pile of old stinky shoes too&#8230; it&#8217;s just a question of who do you address your piece of art to&#8230; I wonder if this would be proposed to a, say, City of LA?</p>
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		<title>By: Tort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way... As I look to the Master plan I see interesting spaces in headquarters of this territory. Water is being used very efficiently, main roads are isolated by trees, individual traffic is organised well and public pathways doesn&#039;t cross main traffic arteries. There&#039;s a lot of green public spaces by the river. I could even see the yacht club. All public interests are concentrated in beautiful nature (Miyi building also) to be part of society, not part of individuals. Living quarters has it&#039;s hearts with some green commercial spaces. It&#039;s our foult if we are lasy enough to see just visualisations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way&#8230; As I look to the Master plan I see interesting spaces in headquarters of this territory. Water is being used very efficiently, main roads are isolated by trees, individual traffic is organised well and public pathways doesn&#8217;t cross main traffic arteries. There&#8217;s a lot of green public spaces by the river. I could even see the yacht club. All public interests are concentrated in beautiful nature (Miyi building also) to be part of society, not part of individuals. Living quarters has it&#8217;s hearts with some green commercial spaces. It&#8217;s our foult if we are lasy enough to see just visualisations.</p>
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		<title>By: Tort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I don&#039;t know how through visualisations it would be possible to represent pure mathematics. And if we&#039;re judging architecture as art I see visualisations handy enough to represent it. In my oppinion there&#039;s not enough space in 5 min article to give all the answers about what problems did this building solved and how efficient it is. It&#039;s an abstract form of what have been done. Engineers have calculated the energy efficiency, urban developers saw what effects would emerge to the surroundings... Sure, if we would see the calculations we could say what&#039;s inside the facades, but as we&#039;re proud of being artists we lack this ability to understand mathematics. My point is - let&#039;s judge facades if there&#039;s nothing else given...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know how through visualisations it would be possible to represent pure mathematics. And if we&#8217;re judging architecture as art I see visualisations handy enough to represent it. In my oppinion there&#8217;s not enough space in 5 min article to give all the answers about what problems did this building solved and how efficient it is. It&#8217;s an abstract form of what have been done. Engineers have calculated the energy efficiency, urban developers saw what effects would emerge to the surroundings&#8230; Sure, if we would see the calculations we could say what&#8217;s inside the facades, but as we&#8217;re proud of being artists we lack this ability to understand mathematics. My point is &#8211; let&#8217;s judge facades if there&#8217;s nothing else given&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Carlos Gomes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Carlos Gomes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spider cibernetic project. Cool and new design. Inside the city i can image the visual impact.  

Brazilian Architect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spider cibernetic project. Cool and new design. Inside the city i can image the visual impact.  </p>
<p>Brazilian Architect</p>
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		<title>By: thiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>thiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tort... i think really the opposite.. architecture must have its &quot;art&quot; factor, but in reality it must be a technical thing, something that solve problems... but what I see when I look at these new &quot;facades&quot; made by computer is that is really easy to make any &#039;beautiful&#039; drawing and find an excuse to explain it, like &quot;The energy producing tower, along with the ecological features of the promenade, will allow Miyi County to become the region’s leader in sustainability.&quot;
this building is not sustainable. the facade is a mere vague representation of the heritage, and so on, but the architects keep saying that....
I&#039;m not against this building in particular, but in the act of using this &#039;technology&#039; to explain things without a critical though... just look at AD archives, a lot of &quot;concept facade&quot; buildings are here, but what they represent?
and i quoted mr eisenman with this well know phrase, but I can quote the simpsons for saying exactly the same with the monkeys that write the krusty&#039;s show, if you ever watched that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tort&#8230; i think really the opposite.. architecture must have its &#8220;art&#8221; factor, but in reality it must be a technical thing, something that solve problems&#8230; but what I see when I look at these new &#8220;facades&#8221; made by computer is that is really easy to make any &#8216;beautiful&#8217; drawing and find an excuse to explain it, like &#8220;The energy producing tower, along with the ecological features of the promenade, will allow Miyi County to become the region’s leader in sustainability.&#8221;<br />
this building is not sustainable. the facade is a mere vague representation of the heritage, and so on, but the architects keep saying that&#8230;.<br />
I&#8217;m not against this building in particular, but in the act of using this &#8216;technology&#8217; to explain things without a critical though&#8230; just look at AD archives, a lot of &#8220;concept facade&#8221; buildings are here, but what they represent?<br />
and i quoted mr eisenman with this well know phrase, but I can quote the simpsons for saying exactly the same with the monkeys that write the krusty&#8217;s show, if you ever watched that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Downes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @jastrapko Miyi Tower clad in shimmering PV tinsel: http://bit.ly/1818L8 Visually stunning&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @jastrapko Miyi Tower clad in shimmering PV tinsel: <a href="http://bit.ly/1818L8" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1818L8</a> Visually stunning</span></span></span></p>
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