Comments on: Shangri-la 01 house / Adriano Carnevale Domingues

By: Luis

Luis — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:52:38 +0000

Good idea . Bad execution.

Ps.

Brazilian Architect

By: MC

MC — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:17:45 +0000

Just HORRIBLE

By: Bo Lucky

Bo Lucky — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:17:08 +0000

Adriano,
As I said… it’s a good design for this location… the kitchen is away from direct natural light and the main entrance is not very well defined… it’s a harmonius, neutral and modern way to let the existing, traditional architecture play major role… it’s appropriate… good work!

By: g

Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:05:31 +0000

below average indeed.

By: Adriano

Adriano — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:56:00 +0000

Bo
You have really understood when you said that the tree doors entrance looks like a private patio because it is the idea. As a pimitive “village” that has a patio with all houses or rooms around it.In this house this entrance area is really like a patio with a open planes roof and tree doors that make you feel you are in and out at same time observing and feeling the indoor and outdoor atmosphere.As the primitive villages, the rooms are around with free path.

By: David Basulto [tricky]

David Basulto [tricky] — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:50:12 +0000

Bo,

Obviously not, but trust me we go through all the comments (weekends is a bit slower). But we have a new feature coming soon that will improve discussions.

By: Adriano

Adriano — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:33:32 +0000

Bo Lucky,
The lady of the house don’t need an artificial light during a day because there no wall in front of the work area that let the natural light of a living room open planes roof, get in the kitchen. To resume the kitchen has light from indoor garden trasparent pegola roof, dinning and living room and barbecue area door and window.I’m glad you like it and understood it.

By: Bo Lucky

Bo Lucky — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:15:49 +0000

Adriano,
Thanks for a clarification. As for the kitchen – I didn’t mean pitch dark. That’s why I said “dark”. What I meant was that there is no direct natural light onto the kitchen work area and I am pretty sure that the lady of the house has to use artificial lighting to work there – is that right? As for the main entrance – the pedestrian path leads directly to the living room – the three doors look like a private patio doors. For a stranger, area facing the dining looks more like the main entrance but it is not. That is why I said that main entrance is not well defined. Overall, the house is very nice and well designed providing all conditions of the existing site.

By: Adriano

Adriano — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:48:32 +0000

Bo Lucky,
The kitchen is not dark at all because there is a mid-height wall and a transparent pergola indoor garden roof that let the natural light come through and light it. The main entrance is at front house with tree doors and a pedestrian path as you can see at aerial photos.

By: christos

christos — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:24:54 +0000

below average architecture, it does not matter wether is modern or traditional, it is just average with very poorly desinged interior….i love the model thought!!

By: Andrei Português Rosa

Andrei Português Rosa — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 00:13:22 +0000

Parabéns, Adriano. Bela intervenção com qualidade em pré-existente ordinária. É bom vermos aqui publicada uma obra do Brasil e mais semelhante com nossa realidade. Talvez os leitores não brasileiros não possam mensurar a dificuldade de convencer os clientes brasileiros a confiar no arquiteto para um projeto diferenciado. Fiquei curioso em saber a solução que você deu para recolhimento da água da chuva nos novos telhados. Parabéns pela publicação!!

Congratulations, Adriano. Great intervention in an ordinary preexisting building. It’s good to read here published a Brazilian project more similar to our reality. Maybe readers from others countries could not measure our difficulty in convince clients to trust in the Architect for a different high qualified project. I got curios about to know your solution for collection of rainwater. Congratulations!!!

By: Bo Lucky

Bo Lucky — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:40:48 +0000

@David Basulto
Is this (see two francis posts above) a good sense of a debate you were taking about?

By: francis

francis — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:18:44 +0000

A blindfolded butcher would have done a better job. Sorry but the last addition of “that” roof and “space” is like driving the last nail into the coffin. I would give my last tofu for that site! Please stop adding more rhythm and harmony … I will start to pity the neighbours.
If you are going to quote Stravinsky, surely it should not be from an AR article? Music cannot be captured in this way: it is the influenced manipulation of light/water/air that you will experience its essences.
So, it just a wonky roof … don’t you think that the opposing slopes to the existing and its manipulation shows the least bit of knowledge of simple construction?

By: Rick

Rick — Sun, 31 May 2009 11:46:38 +0000

A good idea doesn’t always precede a good project, and it’s even possible to make a good project based on a bad idea. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here. This wouldn’t be good even as a student project. Nevertheless, it’s built… so sad.

By: Terry Glenn Phipps

Terry Glenn Phipps — Sun, 31 May 2009 10:28:54 +0000

Multiple car pileup

By: Lucas Gray

Lucas Gray — Sun, 31 May 2009 08:42:11 +0000

From some of the images it looks like this project is an addition to an existing structure – the two buildings on either side being connected by a new intervention.

In general I think this house is a little clumsy with strange angles, confusing spaces and very tight and enclosed. And for all the talk of keeping the large lawn in the front open there doesn’t seem to be many windows or connection between the interior and exterior.

By: Carlos

Carlos — Sun, 31 May 2009 00:22:08 +0000

Absolutely, without any doubt, it WILL leak.

By: matthew

matthew — Sat, 30 May 2009 20:19:23 +0000

the roof forms present many basic drainage issues, with possiblity of future leaking.

By: Abigail

Abigail — Sat, 30 May 2009 18:20:07 +0000

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By: Thiago Beck

Thiago Beck — Sat, 30 May 2009 18:11:41 +0000

I’m not sure that justifying and developing the projetct with a strong element (roofing) upon a problem (no light or cross ventilation) that was created by the architect himself, qualifies as good architecture. The architect wouldnt have to deal with those problems if the house had a better implantation on the terrain. That’s just my 2 cents.