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	<title>Comments on: House 656 / O’Connor + Shanahan architects</title>
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		<title>By: sTEO</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-48134</link>
		<dc:creator>sTEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just doesn&#039;t work as a scheme........</description>
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		<title>By: Ito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I think it happens everywhere</description>
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		<title>By: panamArq</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-37338</link>
		<dc:creator>panamArq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please please please dont call this irish architecture....irish architects are much better than this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please please please dont call this irish architecture&#8230;.irish architects are much better than this</p>
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		<title>By: JKA</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-37331</link>
		<dc:creator>JKA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its understated but , better than a lot of you appreciate. Because your use to arbitary designs from Zaha etc and think thats real architecture , when all it&#039;s just messing about on a computer ! Clearly you need to look at more Irish Architecture !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its understated but , better than a lot of you appreciate. Because your use to arbitary designs from Zaha etc and think thats real architecture , when all it&#8217;s just messing about on a computer ! Clearly you need to look at more Irish Architecture !</p>
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		<title>By: PanamArq</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-37250</link>
		<dc:creator>PanamArq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, at least it is better than the brazil pavilion!
I think the last image is hilarious, the side elevation....its on a hill? really??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, at least it is better than the brazil pavilion!<br />
I think the last image is hilarious, the side elevation&#8230;.its on a hill? really??</p>
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		<title>By: IP freely</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-37248</link>
		<dc:creator>IP freely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of the comments on this have been disappointing. it might be better to analysis the project, rather than defend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of the comments on this have been disappointing. it might be better to analysis the project, rather than defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: NevilleNeville</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36766</link>
		<dc:creator>NevilleNeville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a regular visitor to this site and am amazed at the incensed comments that have resulted from the 
posting of this inoffensive domestic project from Ireland. The project might not be architecturally astounding but it certainly has architectural sensibility in its design and also seems to be a worthy interpretation of a client’s brief. Whether the architect had a concept has been questioned, when this couldn’t be clearer from the information posted, a solid traditional block houses the sleeping areas with a simple single space timber box providing the living areas. The solution is understated and though it may not be everyone’s cup of tea certainly seems undeserving of adjectives such as ‘muck’, ‘trash’, ‘monstrosity’. I agree with Katsudon that the material presented doesn’t do it any favours.

The choice that all readers of the site have is to move onto the next post on the site and onto another project that appeals to them . The best analogy I can make is that the site is like a box of chocolates and one will generally choose a chocolate they like from the box and enjoy it as opposed to complaining that the chocolate that they dislike shouldn’t be in the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a regular visitor to this site and am amazed at the incensed comments that have resulted from the<br />
posting of this inoffensive domestic project from Ireland. The project might not be architecturally astounding but it certainly has architectural sensibility in its design and also seems to be a worthy interpretation of a client’s brief. Whether the architect had a concept has been questioned, when this couldn’t be clearer from the information posted, a solid traditional block houses the sleeping areas with a simple single space timber box providing the living areas. The solution is understated and though it may not be everyone’s cup of tea certainly seems undeserving of adjectives such as ‘muck’, ‘trash’, ‘monstrosity’. I agree with Katsudon that the material presented doesn’t do it any favours.</p>
<p>The choice that all readers of the site have is to move onto the next post on the site and onto another project that appeals to them . The best analogy I can make is that the site is like a box of chocolates and one will generally choose a chocolate they like from the box and enjoy it as opposed to complaining that the chocolate that they dislike shouldn’t be in the box.</p>
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		<title>By: dingdangdong</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36664</link>
		<dc:creator>dingdangdong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately this kind of muck is all too common in the Irish countryside. Its interesting that its provoked such a hostile response and such a pity that the planning authority didn&#039;t take a similar view. If you think this is bad do not go to Ireland - there are approx half a million of these monstrocities lurking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately this kind of muck is all too common in the Irish countryside. Its interesting that its provoked such a hostile response and such a pity that the planning authority didn&#8217;t take a similar view. If you think this is bad do not go to Ireland &#8211; there are approx half a million of these monstrocities lurking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Katsudon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katsudon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The project isn&#039;t bad actually! I don&#039;t understand that the negative comments focus on the project quality! Any small studio that is able to complete this (i don&#039;t mean technically but getting the project from a client and complete it) should be proud to run its business without doing crappy projects that most of us need to do to survive. Yes this is also architecture and it&#039;s a face of the job that exist and when it&#039;s correctly done, why to be so snobbish? This said, i think that if the architect (?) had provided better material about the project it would be considered with better eyes maybe? Those pictures and super compressed jpg floor plan really don&#039;t serve the project!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The project isn&#8217;t bad actually! I don&#8217;t understand that the negative comments focus on the project quality! Any small studio that is able to complete this (i don&#8217;t mean technically but getting the project from a client and complete it) should be proud to run its business without doing crappy projects that most of us need to do to survive. Yes this is also architecture and it&#8217;s a face of the job that exist and when it&#8217;s correctly done, why to be so snobbish? This said, i think that if the architect (?) had provided better material about the project it would be considered with better eyes maybe? Those pictures and super compressed jpg floor plan really don&#8217;t serve the project!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sadia Hayat</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36560</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadia Hayat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thoroughly impressed by the number of comments this trash has recieved................ hey whats happening ........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thoroughly impressed by the number of comments this trash has recieved&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. hey whats happening &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: David Basulto [tricky]</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Basulto [tricky]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Terry,

Of course we edit this :)

I think that ArchDaily should also feature architecture that is not considered &quot;astonishing&quot;.   These buildings can also teach something. Maybe not to you, but i´m very sure that it will to someone. 

As you said, a printed publication might not feature this. But we are not a printed magazine, or a magazine turned into a website. We are a community of architects discussing and sharing. I&#039;ve had enough praising HdM/OMA/etc on the printed magazines attracting dust in my room. And i think you are also tired of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Terry,</p>
<p>Of course we edit this :)</p>
<p>I think that ArchDaily should also feature architecture that is not considered &#8220;astonishing&#8221;.   These buildings can also teach something. Maybe not to you, but i´m very sure that it will to someone. </p>
<p>As you said, a printed publication might not feature this. But we are not a printed magazine, or a magazine turned into a website. We are a community of architects discussing and sharing. I&#8217;ve had enough praising HdM/OMA/etc on the printed magazines attracting dust in my room. And i think you are also tired of that.</p>
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		<title>By: JuanLuisBurke</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36544</link>
		<dc:creator>JuanLuisBurke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Terry, no, you don&#039;t get it straight, I believe that one thing is to edit the content of the web page, which is not your job or mine, and another very different is to project bashing. It&#039;s all too easy to do the latter, as you well know, but is that the purpose of this website? If you do not want to see &quot;mediocre&quot; projects, then why don&#039;t you propose yourself as editor of the website?
In the meantime I think that ridiculing the work of a fellow architect, as mediocre as it may be, is just too easy, but how many of us have the courage to display our work in here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Terry, no, you don&#8217;t get it straight, I believe that one thing is to edit the content of the web page, which is not your job or mine, and another very different is to project bashing. It&#8217;s all too easy to do the latter, as you well know, but is that the purpose of this website? If you do not want to see &#8220;mediocre&#8221; projects, then why don&#8217;t you propose yourself as editor of the website?<br />
In the meantime I think that ridiculing the work of a fellow architect, as mediocre as it may be, is just too easy, but how many of us have the courage to display our work in here?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Glenn Phipps</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36543</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Glenn Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan, let me see if I can get this straight.  You say that projects that commentators don&#039;t like attract negative commentary from those self-same commentators who don&#039;t like those projects?  You&#039;re right, that is just appalling.  We all must of just never thought of it that way before.  Thank you for waving the wand of enlightenment.  

In the future we should all confine our praise for mediocrity and save the ire for that which happens to be anything other.  That is innovative thinking.  

Here I was foolishly thinking that the equitable and kind proposition was to not just publish projects willy nilly but rather to actually edit the content of the site.  Thus you would be less inclined to have to avert your eyes from the uninformed sans experience of kitchen remodeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan, let me see if I can get this straight.  You say that projects that commentators don&#8217;t like attract negative commentary from those self-same commentators who don&#8217;t like those projects?  You&#8217;re right, that is just appalling.  We all must of just never thought of it that way before.  Thank you for waving the wand of enlightenment.  </p>
<p>In the future we should all confine our praise for mediocrity and save the ire for that which happens to be anything other.  That is innovative thinking.  </p>
<p>Here I was foolishly thinking that the equitable and kind proposition was to not just publish projects willy nilly but rather to actually edit the content of the site.  Thus you would be less inclined to have to avert your eyes from the uninformed sans experience of kitchen remodeling.</p>
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		<title>By: JuanLuisBurke</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36522</link>
		<dc:creator>JuanLuisBurke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s becoming common practice in this website to shred to pieces projects that do not enjoy a lot of popularity among the commentators. I think it sucks. While I do not think this project is spectacular, I do hate the pretentious and overly critical shreds of &quot;wisdom&quot; coming from architectural students who have never even done a kitchen remodeling.

This is a decent project and we can all learn a thing or two from practically any project showcased in this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s becoming common practice in this website to shred to pieces projects that do not enjoy a lot of popularity among the commentators. I think it sucks. While I do not think this project is spectacular, I do hate the pretentious and overly critical shreds of &#8220;wisdom&#8221; coming from architectural students who have never even done a kitchen remodeling.</p>
<p>This is a decent project and we can all learn a thing or two from practically any project showcased in this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukasz Prazuch</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36511</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukasz Prazuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to comment, but it would be outrageous to kick the lying person, so instead I would like to ask you T.G. Phipps to share the tuna casserole recipe, as its not Gourmet magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to comment, but it would be outrageous to kick the lying person, so instead I would like to ask you T.G. Phipps to share the tuna casserole recipe, as its not Gourmet magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Glenn Phipps</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36331</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Glenn Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one said anything about celebrity.  It is equally narrow minded to dismiss the work of Charles Gwathmey because he is famous as it would be to dismiss the work of XYZ architect because he or she is not.  The discussion ought to revolve around architecture not fame, not budget, and not place.

This project is home remodeling.  It may have been done by a licensed architect, but the scope of the project is not really architectural in any way.  That is not a judgement about size because a bus shelter can be spectacular architecture.  For lack of a better definition I suppose the point revolves around the aspirations of the architect and the client.  Is this a collaboration in the interest of defining new spaces or is it enclosing the garage to make create a boudoir for the missus?

If this were a print magazine about architecture the odds of this project being included would be astronomical.  The owners would exercise some degree of editorial control and try to provide content of interest to their readers.  The rules of the internet seem different, but they aren&#039;t.  Posting this kind of material is a losing proposition.

Finally, it has to be awfully painful for anyone to have posted this and then read the subsequent commentary; nearly universally brutal.  It is no kindness to publish material that might have an audience in a home remodeling blog on a site with serious architectural pretensions.  What exactly is the expected result?

God forbid my recipe for trailer-park tuna casserole should ever make it into Gourmet magazine.  Tuna casserole is a guilty pleasure best enjoyed with people who appreciate it for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one said anything about celebrity.  It is equally narrow minded to dismiss the work of Charles Gwathmey because he is famous as it would be to dismiss the work of XYZ architect because he or she is not.  The discussion ought to revolve around architecture not fame, not budget, and not place.</p>
<p>This project is home remodeling.  It may have been done by a licensed architect, but the scope of the project is not really architectural in any way.  That is not a judgement about size because a bus shelter can be spectacular architecture.  For lack of a better definition I suppose the point revolves around the aspirations of the architect and the client.  Is this a collaboration in the interest of defining new spaces or is it enclosing the garage to make create a boudoir for the missus?</p>
<p>If this were a print magazine about architecture the odds of this project being included would be astronomical.  The owners would exercise some degree of editorial control and try to provide content of interest to their readers.  The rules of the internet seem different, but they aren&#8217;t.  Posting this kind of material is a losing proposition.</p>
<p>Finally, it has to be awfully painful for anyone to have posted this and then read the subsequent commentary; nearly universally brutal.  It is no kindness to publish material that might have an audience in a home remodeling blog on a site with serious architectural pretensions.  What exactly is the expected result?</p>
<p>God forbid my recipe for trailer-park tuna casserole should ever make it into Gourmet magazine.  Tuna casserole is a guilty pleasure best enjoyed with people who appreciate it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: 2MACoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>2MACoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ну обычная такая фазенда...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ну обычная такая фазенда&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sander</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/21152/house-656-o%e2%80%99connor-shanahan-architects/#comment-36322</link>
		<dc:creator>sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t say i really like the project;
not very spatial, not very beautiful.
BUT
i can say that i still like it more then the main topic on archdaily, because it&#039;s SIMPLE.
no star-architecture, based on artificial koolhaaslike-concepts
just appreciating the most basic and essential thing; dwelling (or wonen in dutch)
of course there are way more inspiring and beautiful houses that still celebrate &#039;the living&#039; instead of their author star architect
my tip: mjvanhee.be

greets
Sander</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t say i really like the project;<br />
not very spatial, not very beautiful.<br />
BUT<br />
i can say that i still like it more then the main topic on archdaily, because it&#8217;s SIMPLE.<br />
no star-architecture, based on artificial koolhaaslike-concepts<br />
just appreciating the most basic and essential thing; dwelling (or wonen in dutch)<br />
of course there are way more inspiring and beautiful houses that still celebrate &#8216;the living&#8217; instead of their author star architect<br />
my tip: mjvanhee.be</p>
<p>greets<br />
Sander</p>
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		<title>By: BROSALIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BROSALIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>дешево и сердито. одобрено</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>дешево и сердито. одобрено</p>
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		<title>By: IP freely</title>
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		<dc:creator>IP freely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you can get this as a flatpack from ikea...... excluding all the furniture obviously....</description>
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