Comments on: Tulou affordable housing project in China / Urbanus http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/ Architecture News: The latest buildings, projects and competitions every day. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:21:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ivy yi http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-38354 ivy yi Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:49:52 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-38354 well, i generally don't think this building is a sensitive response to the process of urbanization in China. some spaces are really inhumane. I understand the high density situation but i really do not believe turing a vernacular into something modern with new functions is working... we need a bit of more innovation from the very underlying. well, i generally don’t think this building is a sensitive response to the process of urbanization in China. some spaces are really inhumane. I understand the high density situation but i really do not believe turing a vernacular into something modern with new functions is working… we need a bit of more innovation from the very underlying.

]]> By: Hakka 2009 - The diary of Jakob Knulp http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-25484 Hakka 2009 - The diary of Jakob Knulp Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:51:02 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-25484 [...] This year URBANUS, one of the leading chinese firms won several prizes with this project read more about it on archdaily [...] [...] This year URBANUS, one of the leading chinese firms won several prizes with this project read more about it on archdaily [...]

]]> By: EdV http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24626 EdV Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:15:41 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24626 http://mongkol.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/world-heritage-2008-fujian-toulou/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulou ...some historic background! http://mongkol.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/world-heritage-2008-fujian-toulou/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulou

…some historic background!

]]> By: sullka http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24602 sullka Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:19:47 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24602 I agree with Mr. Howard, other's might be to young or innocent to know otherwise. It's just a circular prison. I also agree with Laura when she mentions about the high density in China. however, I don't think the solution is to construct a new "hip wowloon walled city": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City I get a little worried when I see the "mixed use" label on projects regardless of where they're located. Can someone show me a "successfull mixed-use social housing" project? I agree with Mr. Howard, other’s might be to young or innocent to know otherwise.

It’s just a circular prison.

I also agree with Laura when she mentions about the high density in China.

however, I don’t think the solution is to construct a new “hip wowloon walled city”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City

I get a little worried when I see the “mixed use” label on projects regardless of where they’re located.

Can someone show me a “successfull mixed-use social housing” project?

]]> By: Mr. Cheap http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24419 Mr. Cheap Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:41:38 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24419 I don't know enough about the project to characterize is at oppressive. To me the spatial qualities "inside" the project look like they are intimate while grand at the same time. What would you do if you were given a plot in a modernist-greenscape-horror site like this ? How would you respond to the site ? Maybe is it not to bad to create the circle, and then give people something totally different inside ? Perhaps this project gives it's inhabitants and residents something completely different than what the site offers ? Maybe it's the best stratergy, -to escape the surroundings ? I don’t know enough about the project to characterize is at oppressive. To me the spatial qualities “inside” the project look like they are intimate while grand at the same time.

What would you do if you were given a plot in a modernist-greenscape-horror site like this ? How would you respond to the site ? Maybe is it not to bad to create the circle, and then give people something totally different inside ?

Perhaps this project gives it’s inhabitants and residents something completely different than what the site offers ? Maybe it’s the best stratergy, -to escape the surroundings ?

]]> By: Laura http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24410 Laura Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:20:47 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24410 I wish they had indluded a little bit of historic background... A Tulou ("earth building") is actually a traditional building form in the south-east of China. And although I generally agree with the criticism mentioned here, one has to keep in mind that this is China, high density is therefore mandatory. I still think it is not a bad idea to reinterpret your traditional housing forms - although they could have used the original material, rammed earth, which would be much more sustainable and innovative. I wish they had indluded a little bit of historic background… A Tulou (”earth building”) is actually a traditional building form in the south-east of China. And although I generally agree with the criticism mentioned here, one has to keep in mind that this is China, high density is therefore mandatory.
I still think it is not a bad idea to reinterpret your traditional housing forms – although they could have used the original material, rammed earth, which would be much more sustainable and innovative.

]]> By: HowardG http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24400 HowardG Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:26:23 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24400 http://www.answers.com/topic/panopticon http://www.answers.com/topic/panopticon

]]> By: HowardG http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24399 HowardG Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:26:02 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24399 ... that should be MR Cheap and here is a MUCH better example of derivations and current examples. And you have heard of totalitarian regimes... how about recent issues in Tibet? … that should be MR Cheap and here is a MUCH better example of derivations and current examples. And you have heard of totalitarian regimes… how about recent issues in Tibet?

]]> By: HowardG http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24397 HowardG Sun, 12 Apr 2009 08:14:08 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24397 My Cheap - people HAVE been oppressed by libraries. It is a well recognised fact that the Catholic Church for centuries kept books, education and reading FROM 'subjects' as a means of power and thus oppression. Certainly the Chinese Govt has spent hundreds of millions over many years revising history and republishing books to suit their version of events. Out of ignorance of truth people are oppressed - kept down - so as to be controlled. Perhasp you are unfamiliar with the word: oppression - noun : 1. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner. 4. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc. Yep burdensome = close proximity / overbearing building / height, paucity of light. That will difinitely get to you in a circular environment. You DO know of the Panopticaon / Panemoticon and modern prison design - don't you! This page at MIT may help : http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~carsonr/phd_thesis/ch01.html#id2532402 My Cheap – people HAVE been oppressed by libraries. It is a well recognised fact that the Catholic Church for centuries kept books, education and reading FROM ’subjects’ as a means of power and thus oppression.

Certainly the Chinese Govt has spent hundreds of millions over many years revising history and republishing books to suit their version of events. Out of ignorance of truth people are oppressed – kept down – so as to be controlled.

Perhasp you are unfamiliar with the word: oppression – noun : 1. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.
4. the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, anxiety, etc.

Yep burdensome = close proximity / overbearing building / height, paucity of light. That will difinitely get to you in a circular environment. You DO know of the Panopticaon / Panemoticon and modern prison design – don’t you! This page at MIT may help : http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~carsonr/phd_thesis/ch01.html#id2532402

]]> By: archdork http://www.archdaily.com/19343/tulou-affordable-housing-project-in-china-urbanus/#comment-24383 archdork Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:00:50 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=19343#comment-24383 you gotta be kidding me. I thought you are living in 21 century!? Don't people now have enough sense of what fundamental and social rights are?! Let them live like a human being!! you gotta be kidding me. I thought you are living in 21 century!? Don’t people now have enough sense of what fundamental and social rights are?! Let them live like a human being!!

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