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Why are there so few women architects?

By David Basulto — Filed under: Architects , Videos
 

Clearly, women represent a smaller percentage in architecture firms when compared to men. I think that there are lots of factors for that. But the answer given on this video by Robert Stern, Yale architecture dean, is very particular.

What do you think?

Seen at Javierest.

 

28 comments »

Miguel says:

I’m lucky to be partner and husband of a Woman Architect. And I don’t agree with Stern in that there is no difference between men and women in architecture.

They are more sensitive, generous, subtle, cheerful and professional in the architecture they do.

A hint of a project she designed and directed:

http://arquitextonica.net/2008/02/13/51ajm-en-san-jose-de-la-rinconada-lourdes-bueno-y-luis-valero/

And some pictures of it from Jesus Granada:

http://www.jesusgranada.com/51ajm/

 
# March 26, 2009 at 15:16
mdf says:

i disagree sir. women can have children and then go back to work, or work from home while feeding. it’s the cultural shift towards “stay at home dads” that has YET to occur. however, i further contend that this economy will be THE game-changer, and now that there are more women in the workplace resulting from the gender wars of the 60’s and 70’s, it will soon come to pass that men will take a more equal role in the family and begin staying at home as a result of financial burden more than anything. the social shift towards stay at home dads will become more acceptable as a means of financial necessity initially (i.e. job loss), and later as a matter of choice.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 15:31
Raul says:

I hope that Mr Stern’s sons and daughters have a beloved architect mother that can take care of them when their father is spending an incredible amount of money in his international journeys. (sic) I think that this is one of the most stupid arguments that I’ve ever heard about this issue.

actually, It seems that Feminism must be a very difficult issue for Mr. Stern’s wisdom. maybe, retirement time has finally come.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 15:35
Kate says:

Wow, Stern should think then speak. Its 2009 and time to get with the program!

 
# March 26, 2009 at 15:53
davvid says:

There is already a strong and growing female presense in Architecture. Honestly I’m more shocked by the absense of Blacks from Architecture. Went to Pecha Kucha NY on Monday and maybe the only Black people were DJ Spooky(who presented) and the security guards. Its the Ivy League, unpaid internship, culture of exclusion that needs to disrupted.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 16:09
Christie says:

I hope it’s not feminism heresy to state that there are indeed differences between men and women. One major difference is our biological clocks and window of fertility. Men are able to put off having children with little stress, knowing that they can father children their whole lives, while women know that their fertility exponentially decreases as early as their 30s. With all the education required to become a licensed architect, and years of experience necessary to gain a “professional” status, brings many women right into the point of when their “clock” ticks with pressing urgency. Perhaps taking a “break” from work to have children ends up taking longer (for A break of in whatever degree is necessary), or they enjoy being the primary caretaker and end up not exerting the extra effort (after getting out of the groove) for getting back on the horse towards getting professional status. All I know is that these are issues that worry me, as a young woman about to graduate from grad school at 27 and looking at 3 years of hard work before gaining professional status. Then I am looking at having a busy career and a child raised in daycare. Sacrifices one way or the other are necessary, and so far, it seems women are the ones to graciously take the blow.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 16:28
JJ says:

I don’t know why you’re all getting all bent out of shape here! To the responders that are so adamantly opposed to his position, please clarify why YOU think there are 50% women in architecture schools and significantly less in the profession. I’m not saying there are not other reasons this is so – it’s a very complex issue and Stern had a very short time to respond, but motherhood and architecture are a difficult balancing act. I know it doesn’t seem PC to admit that but it’s the case and I hope that the other responders are correct that stay-at-home-fathers will become more of a norm.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 16:41
leslie says:

talking about inequality stirs the pot, but not talking about it deters progress. frankly, we need to be asking these questions…

stern was asked a direct question about a statistical fact and frankly, he gave the “safe” answer – that the motherhood timeline interferes with the typical architect’s timeline. safe because it’s a common conjecture and because it implies that women have made a conscious choice about leaving.

truth is, it’s a hell of lot more complicated than that (isn’t everything?)…

as a practicing female architect (age: 31) thinking about having children and an undergraduate studio professor (first-year b.arch) encouraging my 50/50 class to work hard and think critically, i see the discrepancy in female representation between the profession and education firsthand. i should also note that my (all-male) co-workers will tell you, i’m no shrinking violet, especially when it comes to women’s issues.

anecdotally, i see five major factors which have turned my female classmates and colleagues away from the profession over the years – i offer them up for the purpose of discussion:

1. the persistent “i can’t maintain this work schedule if i care at all about raising my kids to be decent human beings” feeling. i think this also explains you don’t see a lot of single fathers in architecture.

2. the subtle reminders women tend to get from bosses, co-workers, contractors, and even clients, that they have to prove their worth – it wears you out over time, trust me. (btw, i think this is the reason #4 exists)

3. in my experience, women intertwine social dynamics with professional dynamics. if there is dissension women tend to respond towards repairing the social balance – they can be consciously competitive, but it becomes unsustainable (the self-critique is hard to escape). this leads women to be hard-working employees who wait to be recognized instead of arguing their case away from the competitive showmen. it eats away at you in such a thankless profession.

4. this one’s tough to admit, but… women tend to be the most vituperative when it comes to judging women (something i have never gotten used to – nor do i really understand). it erodes the already tiny pool of positive female mentors (in a profession supposedly rooted in the concept of mentorship). to those awesome women architects out there – let’s put an end to this!

5. the profession has not adjusted to accommodate the external pressures women face because, by and large it is still run but old men. cynically, i think they’ll have to die off before real progress can be made towards equality (gender and racial, alike). further slowing the equalizing is the fact that unlike other professions, where you can measure merit by profitability, growth, or “results” – architecture is subjective in all stages and that keeps those not-so-lovely “traditions” in place longer.

let’s all begin to move beyond the anecdotal into the analytical – really examining and rectifying this issue is the only way we can keep my female students in the profession for years to come.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 18:16
Lorin says:

To summarize what I wrote in a post of my own about this, I don’t think that Stern is wrong so much as limited in what he says. I know many men who dislike how overwhelming the profession can be, especially if you want to work for a name architect like Stern.

http://archthinking.blogspot.com/2009/03/architecture-links.html

 
# March 26, 2009 at 18:39
Nom_de_Guerre says:

“Why are there so few architects in their 80´s in the profession?”

Because they quickly turn to a sort of social dementia and embrace out-of-date and out-of-reality worldviews which inhibit their hability to contextualize their architectural work in a relevant way for contemporary society.

Like someone else said: maybe it’s time for retirement.

 
# March 26, 2009 at 19:04
MZ says:

If you look on the universities it is fifty-fifty. Really equal balance. But it is an enormous difference, where you go work. An architect is acknowledged if he has his own enterprise and leads an office, not rarely in partnerships or ko-ops. You have to realise: Foster is not big, (only) because of his design talent, rather of his orginising/manager capabilities. To be succesfull as the owner of an architect office you need other qualities and ambitions as creativity and technical knowledge: at a certain point you also need manager-talents. And this is in other professions also a men-domain. It is not the abcense of women: it is their position. I don´t think women work less dedicated: they are just not so absessed with power and success.

 
# March 27, 2009 at 03:31
woman says:

It is really interesting in fact, that during my studies, the percentage of women versus men was 50/50. Where are they now?
I can surely think of a couple of reasons, why there are such few well known women architects out there.
They are probably working for a man boss who is the front man, the one who signs the deals with other “big men bosses”… But they all know that without the hard working women, on which they can count on to cover their backs, they wouldn’t be able to keep their end of the deals. I think that women love architecture as much as men and are just as dedicated, but they are not such attention and power seakers.
Motherhood is for sure one of the factors as well.. I’ve actually had a woman boss when I started my career and it was so sad to see her two children miss their mom.. I felt sorry for them and thought to myself “I wonder into what kind of people they will grow up..” If you don’t want them to call their grandmother “Mom” and if you don’t want them to grow up into emotional invalids, you have to be there for them.
One other thing, among many actually, is the construction sights.. I’ve worked on bigger projects and had to visit the construction sights where there were more than fifty men working at once and not a single woman. I was the only one and I was there to give them a hard time, if things were not going according to the plans. But it was damn hard to get them to take me seriously at first as I heard whistles and shouts about a “WOMAN” present on the site.. and this was when I made a conscious effort to look like a man-dressed dyke with a bad attitude. How frustrating. In my opinion, that is also a reason, why a lot of women prefer to work in the interior design, where there are not looked at like hookers on a stag night and can still remain what they are… ladies. And they contribute a lot!

 
# March 27, 2009 at 05:31
intarch says:

Why are there so few Black Architects????

Female Architects = 20% of registered architects
Black Architects = 1.5% of registered architects

 
# March 27, 2009 at 10:41
ez says:

hm… well, this is the same that my mother – architect (and my grandma is a civil engineer)- said to me when I said that I want to became an architect. She said it’s impossible to have a family etc (but she was married and has 2 children…that proves she is not right)
So, ladies, what shall we do next? ;)

 
# March 27, 2009 at 11:18
LargoJax says:

The idealogical concept is, if you are passionate about doing something, you’ll do it no matter what the difficulty. However, life is a journey and everyone has to make their choices. At the end, will anything change?

 
# March 27, 2009 at 11:42

Well, most men have kids. And many women don’t.
So there goes that argument.

 
# March 27, 2009 at 14:08
preetty sandhu says:

this poor poor man.
he should have just said women can’t design cause their boobs get in the way . hahaha!
men design, women design. it is as simple as that.
some get lucky, most don’t.
if anything perhaps, there are more unlucky women, than unlucky men.

 
# March 28, 2009 at 00:04
Jade Doel says:

My Architecture University is 50/50 – male/female. I had no idea there were going to be that many females when I first started.

 
# March 29, 2009 at 07:10
Kaffilaura says:

The most hilarious about him is his projects. Jesus. And this guy is a dean at an ivy league school.

 
# March 29, 2009 at 13:30
Opium says:

Well guess he voted for obama and not for hillary in the primaries

 
# March 29, 2009 at 15:07
eve says:

“Why are there so few women architects?”. Now, let’s turn to a man for the answer……Sigh. You idiots.

 
# March 29, 2009 at 17:20

Opium,

He´s designing the George Bush Library… trust me he didn´t vote for any democrat at all :)

 
# March 29, 2009 at 17:46
Francisco says:

Ok…let me see… This man, tells us what he thinks ok?…
I don’t agree, but neither disagree…’cause he have a point.

But… if this wans´t the answer, WHAT IS IT? WHY ARE THERE SO FEW WOMEN ARCHITECT??

please…

 
# March 30, 2009 at 18:43
M. says:

Change the words “architect” by “doctor”, “layer”, “engeneer”, anything, and the speach would still stand, and be perfectly valid…..if we were in 1960.

Cheers from pertedetemps.

 
# March 31, 2009 at 09:13
Tania says:

I totally agree with what he said. Yes we are living in a time where we think the impossible is possible but we must face that it is not. As much as we women try to be independent and still be able to have a family like men do we fail. For you see the road to greatness is cold and lonely the other is warm and comfortable. Name me one GREAT architect that is a woman and is not married or has children. Men have families and the wifes takes care of what they neglect it’s been done since the dawn of time.

 
# March 31, 2009 at 12:22
Michael says:

Tania!! Gender roles are prescribed by a long history of war-making patriarchal societies, and genetic predispositions which became obsolete when homo sapiens achieved conciousness. Cognitive evolution!

 
# April 2, 2009 at 12:51
jimmy says:

women’s vision at shopping,vogue,fashion,style.

 
# April 3, 2009 at 01:44

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