Comments on: Learning from the slums (1/2):literature and urban renewal http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/ Architecture News: The latest buildings, projects and competitions every day. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:09:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MandyBisang http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-1515055 MandyBisang Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:10:42 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-1515055 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Learning from the slums (1/2):literature and urban renewal | ArchDaily http://t.co/WHgIOfkw vía @archdaily</span></span> Learning from the slums (1/2):literature and urban renewal | ArchDaily http://t.co/WHgIOfkw vía @archdaily

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]]> By: MOD – An urban action research collective: MODERNITIES.MODIFICATIONS.MODELS http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-175624 MOD – An urban action research collective: MODERNITIES.MODIFICATIONS.MODELS Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:03:55 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-175624 [...] read more: http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/ [...] [...] read more: http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/ [...]

]]> By: Learning from the slums (2/2): the rediscovery | ArchDaily http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-153007 Learning from the slums (2/2): the rediscovery | ArchDaily Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:16:05 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-153007 [...] (part 1/2) [...] [...] (part 1/2) [...]

]]> By: Bikes of Burden and the Effect of Wealth on Transportation Choices | TheCityFix DC http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-69965 Bikes of Burden and the Effect of Wealth on Transportation Choices | TheCityFix DC Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:00:29 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-69965 [...] book eliminates the freshness theory. On the narrow streets, I can’t think of a city in history which has had narrow streets and not been able to, if it so desired, put in an automobile [...] [...] book eliminates the freshness theory. On the narrow streets, I can’t think of a city in history which has had narrow streets and not been able to, if it so desired, put in an automobile [...]

]]> By: Sal http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-63043 Sal Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:26:47 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-63043 what is a slum? its simply temporary, informal settlements by poor people on land that they do not own... they have no incentives to invest in their conditions because they have no security of land ownership or tenure >> that is the basic premise. There are numerous examples across the world (Jordan, India, Pakistan, etc,) where the local government has chosen to recognize the slums, incorporate them into the rest of the city infrastructure and guaranteed land tenure with the condition that families begin to build better and more permanent homes and volunteer to maintain their facilities ... and this has shown to be a HUGE success. Crime rates have dropped because people were more willing to pay a little more to install water and sewage connections to their homes. These places have maintained their small scale character and charm but are now cleaner and happier and not viewed as burdens. The BOTTOM LINE IS SECURITY OF LAND TENURE, without which WHO would be willing to invest in a permanent home. what is a slum? its simply temporary, informal settlements by poor people on land that they do not own… they have no incentives to invest in their conditions because they have no security of land ownership or tenure >> that is the basic premise. There are numerous examples across the world (Jordan, India, Pakistan, etc,) where the local government has chosen to recognize the slums, incorporate them into the rest of the city infrastructure and guaranteed land tenure with the condition that families begin to build better and more permanent homes and volunteer to maintain their facilities … and this has shown to be a HUGE success. Crime rates have dropped because people were more willing to pay a little more to install water and sewage connections to their homes. These places have maintained their small scale character and charm but are now cleaner and happier and not viewed as burdens. The BOTTOM LINE IS SECURITY OF LAND TENURE, without which WHO would be willing to invest in a permanent home.

]]> By: The City Fix DC » Bikes of Burden and the Effect of Wealth on Transportation Choices http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-47025 The City Fix DC » Bikes of Burden and the Effect of Wealth on Transportation Choices Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:05:30 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-47025 [...] book eliminates the freshness theory. On the narrow streets, I can’t think of a city in history which has had narrow streets and not been able to, if it so desired, put in an automobile [...] [...] book eliminates the freshness theory. On the narrow streets, I can’t think of a city in history which has had narrow streets and not been able to, if it so desired, put in an automobile [...]

]]> By: apeiron » Blog Archive » Slum streets? http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-45872 apeiron » Blog Archive » Slum streets? Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:48:01 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-45872 [...] the discussion on slums in Archdaily, here are 3 pictures that would perhaps help illustrate that slums are not [...] [...] the discussion on slums in Archdaily, here are 3 pictures that would perhaps help illustrate that slums are not [...]

]]> By: wfong http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-45720 wfong Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:27:39 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-45720 I agree that western historic cities are different from third world slums. Simply because vehicular proportions at that time were limited to horse drawn carriages as the largest thing on the road. I like to think of it as a more "human-scale" development. In certain places like Zhou Zhuang in China, the streets are equally as narrow and equally as old and dirty, but present themselves as great tourist attractions. This begs the question: If slums are breeding places of crime and social disease... Would today's suburbs be considered the slums of tomorrow? I agree that western historic cities are different from third world slums. Simply because vehicular proportions at that time were limited to horse drawn carriages as the largest thing on the road. I like to think of it as a more “human-scale” development.

In certain places like Zhou Zhuang in China, the streets are equally as narrow and equally as old and dirty, but present themselves as great tourist attractions.

This begs the question: If slums are breeding places of crime and social disease… Would today’s suburbs be considered the slums of tomorrow?

]]> By: apeiron » Blog Archive » Juxtaposition http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-45719 apeiron » Blog Archive » Juxtaposition Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:20:28 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-45719 [...] discussed is the interesting issue of “slums”. Avana Apartments / Aboday ArchitectsAcv Tags: [...] [...] discussed is the interesting issue of “slums”. Avana Apartments / Aboday ArchitectsAcv Tags: [...]

]]> By: Learning from the slums (2/2): the rediscovery - Style of Design http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-22858 Learning from the slums (2/2): the rediscovery - Style of Design Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:24:11 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-22858 [...] (part 1/2) [...] [...] (part 1/2) [...]

]]> By: Craig http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-22621 Craig Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:55:59 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-22621 It's not always the building themselves that make slums bad, but the infrastructure. A lot of Washington DC alley "neighborhoods", built within larger blocks, were destroyed in the earlier 20th century by people (outsiders) who saw them as awful places. They dispersed the communities that lived there, razed their houses, etc. Now they were rather disease-ridden and dirty, but the problem could have been solved by providing proper plumbing and sewage systems instead. It’s not always the building themselves that make slums bad, but the infrastructure. A lot of Washington DC alley “neighborhoods”, built within larger blocks, were destroyed in the earlier 20th century by people (outsiders) who saw them as awful places. They dispersed the communities that lived there, razed their houses, etc. Now they were rather disease-ridden and dirty, but the problem could have been solved by providing proper plumbing and sewage systems instead.

]]> By: Ash http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-20056 Ash Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:29:04 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-20056 Replacing an organic structure with an industrial concrete structure is not the answer. Look at the architecture from the 60s in London, its horrible! These buildings were designed by architect trying to impose their ideals of housing with not a clue how the final residents will use them. And worse they build such ugly, depressing, soulless buildings which took the people from one dirty dump to another (expensive) concrete dump. Replacing an organic structure with an industrial concrete structure is not the answer. Look at the architecture from the 60s in London, its horrible! These buildings were designed by architect trying to impose their ideals of housing with not a clue how the final residents will use them. And worse they build such ugly, depressing, soulless buildings which took the people from one dirty dump to another (expensive) concrete dump.

]]> By: Lee http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-19486 Lee Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:47:57 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-19486 Regardless of urban form, concentrations of poverty lead to crime and other urban problems. Many "slums" are also constructed on land available only because it is undesirable - due to flooding, landslides, train tracks or other conditions that make life unsafe for residents. Relieving poverty and its root causes, not masking it, must be our priority in improving the lives of slum dwellers. Regardless of urban form, concentrations of poverty lead to crime and other urban problems. Many “slums” are also constructed on land available only because it is undesirable – due to flooding, landslides, train tracks or other conditions that make life unsafe for residents. Relieving poverty and its root causes, not masking it, must be our priority in improving the lives of slum dwellers.

]]> By: » ArchDaily.com: Learning from slums FIVEFOOTWAY.COM http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-18788 » ArchDaily.com: Learning from slums FIVEFOOTWAY.COM Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:06:33 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-18788 [...] ArchDaily.com JJ is the co-founder of 5ft Creatives and he is now a legal alien in the [...] [...] ArchDaily.com JJ is the co-founder of 5ft Creatives and he is now a legal alien in the [...]

]]> By: aktu1 http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-18765 aktu1 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:25:27 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-18765 Every third person will be a slum dweller within 30 years. with such populations, can we talk about demolishing slums and building new cities? and i believe that western historic cities with narrow streets are somewhat different from slums in the third world, which are being built in empty territories from found materials. try searching, for example, "mumbai slums" in google earth! Every third person will be a slum dweller within 30 years.
with such populations, can we talk about demolishing slums and building new cities?

and i believe that western historic cities with narrow streets are somewhat different from slums in the third world, which are being built in empty territories from found materials.

try searching, for example, “mumbai slums” in google earth!

]]> By: utopian robot http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-18748 utopian robot Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:16:31 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-18748 slums need to be demolished, they are unsafe and you would know this if you've ever actually been to one. but in the process of demolishing them you need to preserve the community fabric. some people who live in slums are highly organized and having lived in some for so long are "owners" of the land they are on. certainly the plan voisin or other super sanitized housing projects are not appropriate, such as what has been happening in China recently. slums need to be demolished, they are unsafe and you would know this if you’ve ever actually been to one. but in the process of demolishing them you need to preserve the community fabric. some people who live in slums are highly organized and having lived in some for so long are “owners” of the land they are on. certainly the plan voisin or other super sanitized housing projects are not appropriate, such as what has been happening in China recently.

]]> By: Miguel Sá, Arqt http://www.archdaily.com/15271/learning-from-the-slums-12literature-and-urban-renewal/#comment-18740 Miguel Sá, Arqt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:59:06 +0000 http://www.archdaily.com/?p=15271#comment-18740 If the idea is to highlight the opposite in cities, well, enough for me to visit the historic city of Oporto and then visit the Music House area. If the idea is to highlight the opposite in cities, well, enough for me to visit the historic city of Oporto and then visit the Music House area.

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