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		<title>By: Travel round Europe: An avant-garde building in Switzerland</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-75544</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel round Europe: An avant-garde building in Switzerland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that call already to the building Waterflux like the alien. The reasons are obvious &#8230;  Route: Arch Daily        Posted by viola payne   at 8:49 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Puteshestvija po Jevrope: Здание авангарда в Швейцарии</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puteshestvija po Jevrope: Здание авангарда в Швейцарии</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] в здание Waterflux как alien. Причины очевидные &#8230;  Путь: Арч Даили        Posted by viola payne   at 8:41 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Un edificio de vanguardia en Suiza - Por Europa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Un edificio de vanguardia en Suiza - Por Europa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vía: Arch Daily [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Waterflux: un museo muy raro en Suiza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waterflux: un museo muy raro en Suiza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Imagen archdaily [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Goldschmidt Razvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldschmidt Razvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UUUAAA, that is the ugliest house I ever saw, can you acctualy live in it? I think that even Doctor G woud&#039;t like to live here. O god</description>
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		<title>By: Art sure is ugly, man &#124; GENOMICON</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art sure is ugly, man &#124; GENOMICON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this isn&#8217;t just art, it&#8217;s AN ENTIRE ART GALLERY, and I really like it because it pushes the envelope bigtime, and they&#8217;re actually making [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I’m Lost In Paris // France // R &#38; Sie(n) &#124; archiCentral</title>
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		<dc:creator>I’m Lost In Paris // France // R &#38; Sie(n) &#124; archiCentral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] R&amp;Sie has used this technique to make a new façade for a private laboratory in Paris, but most of the technical data are private, so enjoy the images and if you have more questions, you can use the comments to ask, we will get in touch with R&amp;Sie and ask to take part in the forum, as they did in our previous post about the Waterflux. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I’m lost in Paris / RSie(n)</title>
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		<dc:creator>I’m lost in Paris / RSie(n)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] R&amp;Sie has used this technique to make a new façade for a private laboratory in Paris, but most of the technical data are private, so enjoy the images and if you have more questions, you can use the comments to ask, we will get in touch with R&amp;Sie and ask to take part in the forum, as they did in our previous post about the Waterflux. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Waterflux by R&#38;Sie(n) &#124; Future Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waterflux by R&#38;Sie(n) &#124; Future Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the dude</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-11396</link>
		<dc:creator>the dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great debate,,,,i liked a lot the french part with all the litterature references...anyway, Roche got what he wanted on this page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great debate,,,,i liked a lot the french part with all the litterature references&#8230;anyway, Roche got what he wanted on this page</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-11180</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
the two project &#039;&#039;Lowtech&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;r&amp;sie&#039;&#039; seems very opposite. 
In appearence, for the both, just Stacking of elements, but ......the first is post-industrial and the other seems post-human, the first is using components in their integrity with a kind of modernism religiosity (with a perfection of know how) but with a kind of conventionnal articulation, the second hide the components through a body without organs, without structuralism dependencies, producing confusion between parts and the whole entity. 
The first is brandy, minimal and easy readable, consummable for mister NIKE-Prada as &#039;&#039;the easy listening&#039;&#039;, the second is repuslsive, vomitable  agressive, spiky and vaginal. 

One is unfolding intelligence as a spectacle, the other is an anomaly, a toxic dynausaure, as a fragment of the unknow ...

But the main question is which one is the &#039;&#039;mas macho&#039;&#039; one  Laurie Anderson) ? and Where is the wrong darwinism branchees, the bad mutant or the ideal elegancy. 
a</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
the two project &#8221;Lowtech&#8221; and &#8221;r&amp;sie&#8221; seems very opposite.<br />
In appearence, for the both, just Stacking of elements, but &#8230;&#8230;the first is post-industrial and the other seems post-human, the first is using components in their integrity with a kind of modernism religiosity (with a perfection of know how) but with a kind of conventionnal articulation, the second hide the components through a body without organs, without structuralism dependencies, producing confusion between parts and the whole entity.<br />
The first is brandy, minimal and easy readable, consummable for mister NIKE-Prada as &#8221;the easy listening&#8221;, the second is repuslsive, vomitable  agressive, spiky and vaginal. </p>
<p>One is unfolding intelligence as a spectacle, the other is an anomaly, a toxic dynausaure, as a fragment of the unknow &#8230;</p>
<p>But the main question is which one is the &#8221;mas macho&#8221; one  Laurie Anderson) ? and Where is the wrong darwinism branchees, the bad mutant or the ideal elegancy.<br />
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		<title>By: chickmagnetstuff</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-11156</link>
		<dc:creator>chickmagnetstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now i see where Yoda lives</description>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-11002</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suis sur qu&#039;on aurait pu s entendre, non pas sur Roche&amp;co, ce serait mal les utiliser que de les prendre pour entremeteurs,  mackerel de rapprochements amoureux, ils engagent plutot au plaisir animal, eros et thanathos comme i disent, mais nous, nous les petit frenchy desabusé, generation a 700 euros, avec notre ultime fierte,  cache sex et cache misere, ...je te renvoi au texte de l IS de 66 &#039;&#039;De la misère en milieu étudiant: considérée sous ses aspects économique, politique, psychologique, sexuel et notamment intellectuel et de quelques moyens pour y remédier&#039;&#039;... sur  ces points nous pourrions nous entendre.

http://library.nothingness.org/authors.php3?id=6 (french &amp; english)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suis sur qu&#8217;on aurait pu s entendre, non pas sur Roche&amp;co, ce serait mal les utiliser que de les prendre pour entremeteurs,  mackerel de rapprochements amoureux, ils engagent plutot au plaisir animal, eros et thanathos comme i disent, mais nous, nous les petit frenchy desabusé, generation a 700 euros, avec notre ultime fierte,  cache sex et cache misere, &#8230;je te renvoi au texte de l IS de 66 &#8221;De la misère en milieu étudiant: considérée sous ses aspects économique, politique, psychologique, sexuel et notamment intellectuel et de quelques moyens pour y remédier&#8221;&#8230; sur  ces points nous pourrions nous entendre.</p>
<p><a href="http://library.nothingness.org/authors.php3?id=6" rel="nofollow">http://library.nothingness.org/authors.php3?id=6</a> (french &amp; english)</p>
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		<title>By: BimBamBoum</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10951</link>
		<dc:creator>BimBamBoum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cher Alain,

Quand je parlais de tartufferie, je parlais moins du projet de Roche que de ta manière de l&#039;évoquer. T&#039;es drôlement fier de ta petite personne, pas vrai ?
C&#039;est bien ! Maintenant, coucouche panier.

Grosses bises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cher Alain,</p>
<p>Quand je parlais de tartufferie, je parlais moins du projet de Roche que de ta manière de l&#8217;évoquer. T&#8217;es drôlement fier de ta petite personne, pas vrai ?<br />
C&#8217;est bien ! Maintenant, coucouche panier.</p>
<p>Grosses bises.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10940</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frix+Bimbamboum+Chris=the dream team 
Forms never follows function, but silly little boy could work together, yes yes , it s their deep nature. I officially comission you  the boxy house of mister Gargamel of the blue Smurf... ah ah ah... 
&quot;Les cons ça ose tout. C&#039;est même à ça qu&#039;on les r&#039;connaît !&quot;
De L. Ventura, alias Fernand Naudin dans les Tontons flingueurs !! dialogue de M. Audiard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frix+Bimbamboum+Chris=the dream team<br />
Forms never follows function, but silly little boy could work together, yes yes , it s their deep nature. I officially comission you  the boxy house of mister Gargamel of the blue Smurf&#8230; ah ah ah&#8230;<br />
&#8220;Les cons ça ose tout. C&#8217;est même à ça qu&#8217;on les r&#8217;connaît !&#8221;<br />
De L. Ventura, alias Fernand Naudin dans les Tontons flingueurs !! dialogue de M. Audiard</p>
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		<title>By: Bimbamboum.</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10931</link>
		<dc:creator>Bimbamboum.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quelle tartufferie.</description>
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		<title>By: francois roche / R&#38;sie(n)</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10920</link>
		<dc:creator>francois roche / R&#38;sie(n)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;I see that architecture can be sometimes, somewhere a place of &#039;&#039; arguments &#039;&#039;, in the sense of the arguments of XVIII / I am not sure about quality of contradictors, but it&#039;s the game of anonymat to shoot as snipers... For information : We are doing the next opus of &#039;&#039;Ive heard about&#039;&#039; /  http://www.new-territories.com/I%27veheardabout.htm / next may in LeLaboratoire-Paris / come have a look on this hypothesis of machinist-self organised protocols / best FRoche-R&amp;Sie(n)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;I see that architecture can be sometimes, somewhere a place of &#8221; arguments &#8221;, in the sense of the arguments of XVIII / I am not sure about quality of contradictors, but it&#8217;s the game of anonymat to shoot as snipers&#8230; For information : We are doing the next opus of &#8221;Ive heard about&#8221; /  <a href="http://www.new-territories.com/I%27veheardabout.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.new-territories.com/I%27veheardabout.htm</a> / next may in LeLaboratoire-Paris / come have a look on this hypothesis of machinist-self organised protocols / best FRoche-R&amp;Sie(n)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10872</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer to Contemporary Art:
You said it
&quot;this is inappropriate beyond belief for such a space. First of all, an interior of this shape will be totally unrelated to conventional exhibition interiors (convention here is important, even if it isn’t in architecture). What that means is that artists will have to develop new work just for this one obscure project, otherwise their work will be out of place.&quot;
Sounds like a compliment !!!
This is why this space is controversial and interesting. It twist the relation between art and architecture, it gives an organic body to the museum, ingesting and digesting art, yes we are talking about body fluids, contemporary art and shit, that&#039;s something to be meditate on, no (especially for someone who red the latest Virilio (&quot;Art as Far as the Eye Can See&quot;, &quot;Art and Fear&quot;). We are talking here about Radical architecture, and not the bourgeois, conventional white box art space. Francois Roche, if you know his body of built work, has mainly constructed for contemporary artists. I would even say that his usual clients are contemporary artists and not museographers.

Have a look here, you will see mainly pictures unpublished officially of his work &quot;the Snake&quot;, because they show how one interior has been re-appropriate by the user (an artist collector):
http://www.architecturedecollection.fr/bien.asp?REF=0000025

Reponse a Frix: Mais qu&#039;est ce qui vous dit que l&#039;Architecture c&#039;est justement continuer les formules constructives du BTP ? Qu&#039;est ce qui nous prouve qu&#039;en renoncant justement a ce que l&#039;on nomme communement l&#039;Architecture; qui est plutot une maniere un peu plus marketee et conventionelle de faire des metre carres habitables, et en reinventant son rapport a la construction, on ne touche pas a une defninition plus juste de l&#039;Architecture ? Qu&#039;est ce qui nous prouve justement que Francois Roche et son equipe ne font pas, eux vraiement de l&#039;Architecture, parcequ&#039;ils la font renaitre a chaque questionnement, a chaque projet ? Dans ce sens je met ensemble Loos, Lautner, Utzon, Gaudi, Frei Otto, Siza, Piano et Roche, car chacun ont ce desire de renouveller sans cesse non seulement le discour, mais aussi la maniere constructive.

Effectivement il y a une part de cynisme venimeux dans la discour de Francois Roche. Il faut comprendre que c&#039;est, non seulement une attitude adoptee depuis le debut de sa carriere d&#039;architecte, a l&#039;epoque de &quot;L&#039;Ombre du cameleon&quot; avec Edouard Francois et Duncan Lewis, mais c&#039;est aussi devenu une defense assez efficace contre le petit milieu de l&#039;architecture en France, d&#039;ou le fanatisme de la horde de fans qui l&#039;accompagne sur chaque forum, conference et autre manifestation publique. Il cite Parent et Friedman, ce n&#039;est pas pour rien, puisque ceux ci on ete mis a l&#039;ecart par les mandarins de droite affilies au BTP, comme les architectes hipppies gauchistes des 60, 70s. Quand on veut pretendre a la radicalite on doit se permettre la plus grande severite envers soi-meme et ne pas tomber dans l&#039;auto-indulgence, d&#039;ou aussi cette aggressivite, cet ascetisme de la plume. Je ne crois pas que cela soit une situation enviable, qui a autant le courage d&#039;etre Contre et Autre? Cette agence a ete et reste boycottee par le milieu architectural franco-francais, et ce n&#039;est que recement qu&#039;ils ont pu emerger en construisant de plus en plus.
Tant mieux si leur travail suscite encore plus de controverses, il faut que les gens se reveillent !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer to Contemporary Art:<br />
You said it<br />
&#8220;this is inappropriate beyond belief for such a space. First of all, an interior of this shape will be totally unrelated to conventional exhibition interiors (convention here is important, even if it isn’t in architecture). What that means is that artists will have to develop new work just for this one obscure project, otherwise their work will be out of place.&#8221;<br />
Sounds like a compliment !!!<br />
This is why this space is controversial and interesting. It twist the relation between art and architecture, it gives an organic body to the museum, ingesting and digesting art, yes we are talking about body fluids, contemporary art and shit, that&#8217;s something to be meditate on, no (especially for someone who red the latest Virilio (&#8220;Art as Far as the Eye Can See&#8221;, &#8220;Art and Fear&#8221;). We are talking here about Radical architecture, and not the bourgeois, conventional white box art space. Francois Roche, if you know his body of built work, has mainly constructed for contemporary artists. I would even say that his usual clients are contemporary artists and not museographers.</p>
<p>Have a look here, you will see mainly pictures unpublished officially of his work &#8220;the Snake&#8221;, because they show how one interior has been re-appropriate by the user (an artist collector):<br />
<a href="http://www.architecturedecollection.fr/bien.asp?REF=0000025" rel="nofollow">http://www.architecturedecollection.fr/bien.asp?REF=0000025</a></p>
<p>Reponse a Frix: Mais qu&#8217;est ce qui vous dit que l&#8217;Architecture c&#8217;est justement continuer les formules constructives du BTP ? Qu&#8217;est ce qui nous prouve qu&#8217;en renoncant justement a ce que l&#8217;on nomme communement l&#8217;Architecture; qui est plutot une maniere un peu plus marketee et conventionelle de faire des metre carres habitables, et en reinventant son rapport a la construction, on ne touche pas a une defninition plus juste de l&#8217;Architecture ? Qu&#8217;est ce qui nous prouve justement que Francois Roche et son equipe ne font pas, eux vraiement de l&#8217;Architecture, parcequ&#8217;ils la font renaitre a chaque questionnement, a chaque projet ? Dans ce sens je met ensemble Loos, Lautner, Utzon, Gaudi, Frei Otto, Siza, Piano et Roche, car chacun ont ce desire de renouveller sans cesse non seulement le discour, mais aussi la maniere constructive.</p>
<p>Effectivement il y a une part de cynisme venimeux dans la discour de Francois Roche. Il faut comprendre que c&#8217;est, non seulement une attitude adoptee depuis le debut de sa carriere d&#8217;architecte, a l&#8217;epoque de &#8220;L&#8217;Ombre du cameleon&#8221; avec Edouard Francois et Duncan Lewis, mais c&#8217;est aussi devenu une defense assez efficace contre le petit milieu de l&#8217;architecture en France, d&#8217;ou le fanatisme de la horde de fans qui l&#8217;accompagne sur chaque forum, conference et autre manifestation publique. Il cite Parent et Friedman, ce n&#8217;est pas pour rien, puisque ceux ci on ete mis a l&#8217;ecart par les mandarins de droite affilies au BTP, comme les architectes hipppies gauchistes des 60, 70s. Quand on veut pretendre a la radicalite on doit se permettre la plus grande severite envers soi-meme et ne pas tomber dans l&#8217;auto-indulgence, d&#8217;ou aussi cette aggressivite, cet ascetisme de la plume. Je ne crois pas que cela soit une situation enviable, qui a autant le courage d&#8217;etre Contre et Autre? Cette agence a ete et reste boycottee par le milieu architectural franco-francais, et ce n&#8217;est que recement qu&#8217;ils ont pu emerger en construisant de plus en plus.<br />
Tant mieux si leur travail suscite encore plus de controverses, il faut que les gens se reveillent !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://www.archdaily.com/10157/waterflux-rsien/#comment-10851</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well
reponse a Frix, 
 
le travail sur le grotesque, la repulsion, l indetermination des concepts, voir la mise a distance du mot meme concept, l&#039; illisibilte de la nature de la chose, sorte skyzophrenie des apparences, le ni l un ni l autre, ni arbre ni grotte, et les deux a la fois, mais en meme temps je (re)pere quatre possibles et non deux,  branchages qui accentue l&#039; ennneigement et produise l hiver le fantome morphologique d un habitat tradit de savoie-alpes suise qui apparait a la fonte eviscerer de sa &#039;&#039;chair&#039;&#039;, cette meme fonte des glaces qui genere l&#039;indoor, et le contexte peripherique qui genere ces branchages avortés... cette confusion est par nature situ, mais pas seulement...elle n est pas lineaire et ne peut etre reduite a un simple montage &#039;&#039;esthetique&#039;&#039;, transparent... ca resite a la lecture... et a la tienne d autant plus...mais aussi...Le local anthroposophique, boucle de recyclage transformation, matiere premiere vers manufacturation et reassemblage, la societe du spectacle n&#039; oeuvre pas sur ce genre de Monades...la societe du spectacle est top down, on est ici bottom up (la situation fabrique la transformation de la situation, et la rend visible, mais avec des procedures qui elles meme (fraisage 5 axes) sont ambigus par leur monolitisme... je les ai entendu dire... corps sans organe... pas une  structuration structuraliste...mais un corps bois qui ne laisse pas lire comme un l assemblage de partie, de composants mais un truc fait de flux, de bifurcation et d intensite... 
.... je pourrais continuer sur trois pages.... mais frix tes trop con et un argumentaire n&#039;y changera rien
Ton missel d ecologie en poche, c est comme les staliniens sur lesquels Debord vomissait... de koi ta peur, hein ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well<br />
reponse a Frix, </p>
<p>le travail sur le grotesque, la repulsion, l indetermination des concepts, voir la mise a distance du mot meme concept, l&#8217; illisibilte de la nature de la chose, sorte skyzophrenie des apparences, le ni l un ni l autre, ni arbre ni grotte, et les deux a la fois, mais en meme temps je (re)pere quatre possibles et non deux,  branchages qui accentue l&#8217; ennneigement et produise l hiver le fantome morphologique d un habitat tradit de savoie-alpes suise qui apparait a la fonte eviscerer de sa &#8221;chair&#8221;, cette meme fonte des glaces qui genere l&#8217;indoor, et le contexte peripherique qui genere ces branchages avortés&#8230; cette confusion est par nature situ, mais pas seulement&#8230;elle n est pas lineaire et ne peut etre reduite a un simple montage &#8221;esthetique&#8221;, transparent&#8230; ca resite a la lecture&#8230; et a la tienne d autant plus&#8230;mais aussi&#8230;Le local anthroposophique, boucle de recyclage transformation, matiere premiere vers manufacturation et reassemblage, la societe du spectacle n&#8217; oeuvre pas sur ce genre de Monades&#8230;la societe du spectacle est top down, on est ici bottom up (la situation fabrique la transformation de la situation, et la rend visible, mais avec des procedures qui elles meme (fraisage 5 axes) sont ambigus par leur monolitisme&#8230; je les ai entendu dire&#8230; corps sans organe&#8230; pas une  structuration structuraliste&#8230;mais un corps bois qui ne laisse pas lire comme un l assemblage de partie, de composants mais un truc fait de flux, de bifurcation et d intensite&#8230;<br />
&#8230;. je pourrais continuer sur trois pages&#8230;. mais frix tes trop con et un argumentaire n&#8217;y changera rien<br />
Ton missel d ecologie en poche, c est comme les staliniens sur lesquels Debord vomissait&#8230; de koi ta peur, hein ?</p>
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		<title>By: evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this  projetct is wonderfull, incredible.


I like very much...



I from Chile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this  projetct is wonderfull, incredible.</p>
<p>I like very much&#8230;</p>
<p>I from Chile</p>
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